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All Portals closed at WP:MfD during 2019

Grouped Nominations total 127 Portals:

1. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/US County Portals Deleted 64 portals
2. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Districts of India Portals Deleted 30 Portals
3. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portals for Portland, Oregon neighborhoods Deleted 23 Portals
4. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Allen Park, Michigan Deleted 6 Portals
5. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Cryptocurrency Deleted 2 Portals
6. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:North Pole Deleted 2 Portals

Individual Nominations:

1. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Circles Deleted
2. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Fruits Deleted
3. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:E (mathematical constant) Deleted
4. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Burger King Deleted
5. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Cotingas Deleted
6. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Prostitution in Canada Deleted
7. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Agoura Hills, California Deleted
8. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Urinary system Deleted
9. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:You Am I Deleted
10. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Cannabis (2nd nomination) Reverted to non-Automated version
11. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Intermodal containers Deleted
12. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Adventure travel Deleted
13. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Adam Ant Deleted
14. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Benito Juárez, Mexico City Deleted
15. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Spaghetti Deleted
16. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Wikiatlas Deleted
17. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Greek alphabet Deleted
18. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn Deleted
19. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Accounting Deleted G7
20. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Lents, Portland, Oregon Deleted P2
21. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Ankaran Deleted
22. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Jiu-jitsu Deleted G8
23. Portal:University of Nebraska Speedy Deleted P1/A10 exactly the same as Portal:University of Nebraska–Lincoln also created by the TTH

Related WikiProject:

1. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Quantum portals Demoted

(Attribution: Copied from Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Portal MfD Results)

This was a spin-off from WikiProject Portals, for the purpose of developing zero-page portals (portals generated on-the-screen at the push of a button, with no stored pages).

It has been merged back into WikiProject Portals. In the MfD the vote was "demote". See Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Quantum portals.

At WP:VPR, mass creation of Portals using semi-automated tools has been put on hold until clearer community consensus is established.

See Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Hiatus on mass creation of Portals.

See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Proposal 1: Interim Topic-Ban on New Portals.

Keep on keepin' on.    — The Transhumanist   04:04, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Implementation of the new portal design has been culled back almost completely, and the cull is still ongoing. The cull has also affected portals that existed before the development of the automated design.

Some of the reasons for the purge are:

• Portals receive insufficient traffic, making it a waste of editor resources to maintain them, especially for narrow-scope or "micro" portals
• The default {{bpsp}} portals are redundant with the corresponding articles, being based primarily on the corresponding navigation footer displayed on each of those articles, and therefore not worth separate pages to do so
• They were mass created

Most of the deletions have been made without prejudice to recreation of curated portals, so that approval does not need to be sought at Deletion Review in those cases.

In addition to new portals being deleted, most of the portals that were converted to an automated design have been reverted.

Which puts us back to portals with manually selected content, that need to be maintained by hand, for the most part, for the time being, and back facing some of the same problems we had when we were at this crossroads before:

• Manually maintained portals are not scalable (they are labor intensive, and there aren't very many editors available to maintain them)
• The builders/maintainers tend to eventually abandon them
• Untended handcrafted portals go stale and fall into disrepair over time

These and other concepts require further discussion. See you at WT:POG.

However, after the purge/reversion is completed, some of the single-page portals might be left, due to having acceptable characteristics (their design varied some). If so, then those could possibly be used as a model to convert and/or build more, after the discussions on portal creation and design guidelines have reached a community consensus on what is and is not acceptable for a portal.

See you at WT:POG.

A major theme in the deletion discussions was the need for portals to be curated, that is, each one having a dedicated maintainer.

There are currently around 100 curated portals. Based on the predominant reasoning at MfD, it seems likely that all the other portals may be subject to deletion.

See you at WT:POG.

An observation and argument that arose again and again during the WP:ENDPORTALS RfC and the ongoing deletion drive of {{bpsp}} default portals, was that portals simply do not get much traffic. Typically, they get a tiny fraction of what the corresponding like-titled articles get.

And while this isn't generally considered a good rationale for creation or deletion of articles, portals are not articles, and portal critics insist that traffic is a key factor in the utility of portals.

The implication is that portals won't be seen much, so wouldn't it be better to develop pages that are?

And since such development isn't limited to editing, almost anything is possible. If we can't bring readers to portals, we could bring portal features, or even better features, to the readers (i.e., to articles)...

An approach that has received some brainstorming is "quantum portals", meaning portals generated on-the-fly and presented directly on the view screen without any saved portal pages. This could be done by script or as a MediaWiki program feature, but would initially be done by script. The main benefits of this is that it would be opt-in (only those who wanted it would install it), and the resultant generated pages wouldn't be saved, so that there wouldn't be anything to maintain except the script itself.

Another approach would be to focus on implementing specific features independently, and provide them somewhere highly visible in a non-portal presentation context (that is, on a page that wasn't a portal that has lots of traffic, i.e., articles). Such as inserted directly into an article's HTML, as a pop-up there, or as a temporary page. There are scripts that use these approaches (providing unrelated features), and so these approaches have been proven to be feasible.

What kind of features could this be done with?

The various components of the automated portal design are transcluded excerpts, news, did you know, image slideshows, excerpt slideshows, and so on.

Some of the features, such as navigation footers and links to sister projects are already included on article pages. And some already have interface counterparts (such as image slideshows). Some of the rest may be able to be integrated directly via script, but may need further development before they are perfected. Fortunately, scripts are used on an opt-in basis, and therefore wouldn't affect readers-in-general and editors-at-large during the development process (except for those who wanted to be beta testers and installed the scripts).

The development of such scripts falls under the scope of the Javascript-WikiProject/Userscript-department, and will likely be listed on Wikipedia:User scripts/List when completed enough for beta-testing. Be sure to watchlist that page.

Being curated. At least for the time being.

New encyclopedia program features will likely eventually render most portals obsolete. For example, the pop-up feature of MediaWiki provides much the same functionality as excerpts in portals already, and there is also a slideshow feature to view all the images on the current page (just click on any image, and that activates the slideshow). Future features could also overlap portal features, until there is nothing that portals provide that isn't provided elsewhere or as part of Wikipedia's interface.

But, that may be a ways off. Perhaps months or years. It depends on how rapidly programmers develop them.

The features of Wikipedia and its articles will continue to evolve, even if Portals go by the wayside. Most, if not all of portals' functionality, or functions very similar, will likely be made available in some form or other.

And who knows what else?

No worries.

Until next issue...    — The Transhumanist   00:30, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I am returning to Wikipedia after very limited experience 5 years ago. I am addressing the insertion of a banner on the article Reeta Chowdhari Tremblay Let me address the comments one at a time.

1)Needs additional citations for verification. Please explain what this means, specifically what is that in particular seeks to need verification. I think this should be easy to address.

2)Might have an extensive bias or disproportional coverage towards one or more specific regions. This scholar/administrator is known to me as an expert with a balanced, informed view on the currently very relelvant and contentious issue of Kashmir. I do not see this as out of place in a Wikipedia article. Can you explain why you see it as potentially problematic?

3)This article relies too much on references to primary sources.. Here exists a potentially fatal weakness in this biographical article. Tremblay has combined an intensive and aparently successful career in University administration, moving at each step to a higher level of administration in a better-rated university with an academic career of some significance in, for the most part, a narrow field of study (see 2 above). Administrators rarely get written up in newspapers, and whe is not sufficiently proment as a scholar to have won something like an order of Canada, or other star-caliber form of recognition. The problem is that this unusual career path of spending some 20 years iln full-time university administration and still maintaining active and relevant research must necessarily involve trade-offs.

I cannot so far find additional secondary sources of value. And this might well invalidate the entire article and entail its removal from Wikipedia. But I think it could also be argued that the subject of the article is female, a person of colour originally from the third world (India) and working in a less-than-glamorous area. Such persons of note are probably significantly under-represented among Wikipedia biographies. My own assessment is that the article should remain and the banners removed, but I will not take that step without the ifurther inut of an experienced editor such as yourself.City Bube (talk) 05:13, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

City Bube To address one by one: #1 was meant along the same lines as #3 - it needs more secondary sources to replace the primary sources and just back the article up. But #2 you bring up a good point: I was working quickly and misread the banner text. I meant to say the article might go too in depth in areas - the selected bibliography, for example, is very large for being 'selected'. Anyway, you are right that the real problem is #3...I am not entirely sure this article could stand up to AfD. I would recommend editing to fix the problems with the article instead of removing the banners. --Nerd1a4i (talk) 17:26, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nerd1a4i, Thanks for the clarification. I agree the select bibliography is too long and I will shorten it considerably. I will then remove banner comment #2; as I think you will agree it does not seem appropriate. I'll try to address the others in the next few days. --City Bube (talk) 20:16, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

City Bube sounds good with respect to banner #2. Feel free to ping me when you're done addressing banners #1 and #3; I'd be happy to look over it. --Nerd1a4i (talk) 20:19, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sir,

      Sorry if i do something wrong in your page because I am new here . I created this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sai_Ye_Htet_Kaung and I got this notification "This article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy." . Can you help me please ?

Alexxeos (talk) 21:06, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Alexxeos feel free to respond at WP:Articles for deletion/Sai Ye Htet Kaung. I merely reviewed it and marked it as possibly not notable, and it seems others agreed enough to mark it for AfD. If you believe it's notable, I'd suggest adding secondary, reliable sources that show the artist's notability - you may wish to read through WP:NMUSICIAN to see what needs to be done to show notability. Also, even if the article does get deleted - some of my own articles have gotten deleted. Please keep editing, your presence on wikipedia is welcome =) Have a good day. --Nerd1a4i (talk) 21:12, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Related to Jordan Elsass's wikipage I was attempting to create, sorry, but I am a bit new to this (to say the least). The point in my effort was that if you go to the "Little Fires Everywhere" wikipage, you will see Jordan's name, as a member of the cast. I want to create a page to link to on his name. The references for all his previous work as an actor, are all verified on IMDB. What else do I need to do and/or what am I not understanding. Thanks for your patience.

@Pwelsass That's perfectly alright, everyone needs to start somewhere. First, I'd recommend you go through WP:MoS and your draft - it is hard to read because it doesn't follow the standard wikipedia format. Break up your article into sections, with a lede at the top. Put the different films he was in in a table. As to references, see WP:CITEIMDB - IMDb can be a source, but not the only source, so add some others. Finally, go through WP:NACTOR to see what is needed to show notability. Hope this helps, and feel free to ping me with any more questions! --Nerd1a4i (talk) 22:30, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Both of these references discuss Jordan Elsass and his character in [Fires Everywhere]:

https://hdfun.club/tv-news/2019/04/30/little-fires-everywhere-hulu-announces-additional-series-regulars.html

https://tvweb.com/little-fires-everywhere-cast-hulu-reese-witherspoon-kerry-washington/

That should be all that is needed to create a page for him, along with the IMDB page and credits, correct? Please advise.

Pwelsass I'd suggest having more than just those two sources, and also going through WP:MOS as I suggested. --Nerd1a4i (talk) 03:37, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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