Talk:Mafia state

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All the sources are western media coverages. Furthermore, no mention of Yeltsin, even though everything began under him--96.250.107.241 (talk) 04:58, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As I understand the sources, the specific term "mafia state" is used when referring to the Putin era, "in which officials [many of whom FSB], oligarchs and organised crime are bound together to create a 'virtual mafia state'", which is distinct from the Yeltsin era, although the Russian mafia of course also existed back then and although Yeltsin's government wasn't perfect either. By non-western, I suppose you mean Russian sources. Free/independent media in Russia are routinely harrassed and journalists even killed in some cases, and a state-controlled Russian source wouldn't be a reliable source for anything else than the position of the Russian government/the Putin regime in this particular case. In any case, here is a Russian source too: Moscow Times Tataral (talk) 02:40, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeltsin's government wasn't perfect either? Maybe Yeltsin's government wasn't government? "Free/independent media in Russia are routinely harrassed and journalists even killed in some cases" ... look at the statistics, you'll see journalist murders under Yeltsin weren't less, though many were not registered and there were less journalists that time. Please, if your emotions drive you, respect emotions of other peoples, or maybe let's drop off paranoia at all? The article needs to be rewritten to make understand mafia state is primarily an INSULT for any country with neither legal status nor scientific definition, along with empires of evil and so on.--213.208.170.194 (talk) 11:17, 11 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've tried to describe the wider meaning of the term, but the article still needs expansion and more global perspective. The way how the original version tried to present the subject term was rather inappropriate. GreyHood ^Talk 22:21, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking about something like this (edit summary), I mist tell that it is about Russia, and it is about any other states that have been described in multiple WP:RS as "Mafia states". My very best wishes (talk) 13:15, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]