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Charles Cholmondeley (British intelligence officer)

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Notable only for WP:1E of his involvement in Operation Mincemeat, all relevant detail can be found on that page so this should replaced with a redirect Mztourist (talk) 04:26, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There is no such thing as partial notability. With a biography, it is either established by significant coverage, per WP:GNG, or it isn't, and in this case the two books relied on clearly take Cholmondeley over that hurdle, the whole of him. On WP:1E, that says "If the event is highly significant, and the individual's role within it is a large one, a separate article is generally appropriate." Moonraker (talk) 20:48, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see that his role in Mincemeat was "a large one". The page is simply a brief description of his role in Mincemeat, with more detail about the Twenty Committee and Montagu than him. There is a complete lack of basic biographical detail about Cholmondeley and none of the sources I have seen amount to SIGCOV of him satisfying GNG. Mztourist (talk) 04:04, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see that his role in Mincemeat was "a large one". Bizarre comment, given he and Montagu were almost wholly responsible for it! Montagu was the more senior officer (by only a single rank), but Cholmondeley was equally responsible. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:12, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Mztourist (talk) 04:27, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and United Kingdom. - "Ghost of Dan Gurney" ^{(work / talk)} 06:02, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge. A search on him returns hundreds of pages, and a search excluding the name of the operation returns pages in other languages, so looks like WP:1E indeed. 20:46, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
Keep. Prominent figure in a prominent operation that has been the subject of multiple books and two feature films (although he was fictionalised in one of them). Continued his intelligence career after the war. Plenty of coverage of him personally. Clearly notable. Easily meets WP:GNG. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:08, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I believe Ewen Montagu's obituary of Cholmondeley in The Times (June 23, 1982) suggests that he's notable enough Piecesofuk (talk) 16:29, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - in addition to the SIGCOV raised above, he has an entry in the Dictionary of National Biography, which means that at least one major print publication considers him notable. It would be good if the obit mentioned by Piecesofuk could be brought into the article in some way. UndercoverClassicist (talk) 17:52, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've added the Times ref to the article. I couldn't find him in the ODNB, do you have a link? Piecesofuk (talk) 19:10, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]