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I'm actually the webmaster of whoaisnotme.net where that discussion took place (and apparently led to other places citing it). However, based on other sources, I'm unsure about its accuracy. Throughout the years Keanu was repeatedly described as having a white British mother and a Hawaiian-Chinese father, with more precise accounts putting him at 1/8 Chinese. More recently (Sept 2013) he personally mentioned that his grandmother was Chinese and Hawaiian, which further complicates matters, though it's possible that he's mistaken. Native Hawaiian ancestry is itself heavily tied to East Asian ancestry, so it's also possible that this is merely a matter of semantics and geography.

Either way, there's something extremely odd with describing Keanu's father as "of English, Native Hawaiian, Portuguese, Scottish, 1/32 Chinese, and remote Dutch, French, and Italian, ancestry"; "of 1/32 ... ancestry" isn't even grammatically correct or consistent with the rest of the sentence, which never cares to be as precise with the other figures, not to mention that if 1/32 is not considered remote, what is? It's also suspicious that English is listed first, because if we're talking about how prominent a particular ethnic makeup is, Keanu's father looks obviously not-white, same as the rest of his paternal family.

More to the point, in the past few months Keanu has been getting a lot of flak for his role as a 'half-breed' character in 47 Ronin, with people deriding him as a white guy out to appropriate Asian culture. Problems with Hollywood whitewashing aside, while Keanu may not be significantly Chinese, it's at least clear that he is neither anywhere near 100% white, as many people have been claiming, but closer to slightly over half. I thus find it disingenuous that people edited the Wiki article (after years of it simply reporting him to be half white and half Hawaiian-Chinese, as most sources said) to make it seem that his non-white ancestry is negligible; while his Chinese ancestry might very well be, his Hawaiian ancestry definitely isn't. Anakinmcfly (talk) 08:41, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I recently edited Jonah Meyerson's page by adding "The Jason Sudeikis Incident" about an incident between Jonah and Jason that took place at UPenn a few days ago. I know Wikipedia prefers cited information, but unfortunately this incident is not documented anywhere. I (and many others) just happened to be there to see it go down. How do I proceed? Should I have made the edit without citation instead of citing the larger event? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.250.143.158 (talk) 18:21, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi there, I see you recently edited Zachary Gordon. Could you please check whether this edit is correct? The anonymous editor who did it mostly performs vandalism. Thanks! --Slashme (talk) 08:56, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for checking it out! I see it's already been fixed. --Slashme (talk) 20:02, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Magazine confirms that his mother is indeed Palestinian. If you can find a reputable source claiming otherwise, post it, and the source will be removed. Otherwise, it's staying. It's sourced, per Wiki guidelines. If you feel that this somehow violates Wiki rules, contact an administrator. Please cease from an edit war. TY. Itsthegoldenratio (talk) 03:47, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Do not change Sharon Leal's age. Wikipedia has verified it through her site. It will just be changed back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulbecker1 (talk • contribs) 06:12, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hey ...Why don't you google me to see my relation to her. I have her drivers license with me now. She is born in 1979. Look at the past talk pages....her official website trumps everything you may post or edit! I suggest you stop please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulbecker1 (talk • contribs) 06:33, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Sorry, I seem to have clobbered your edit on Whitney Houston. it's been a while since my last Wikipedia edit. I'll try to replace the submerged changes, but the server seems to be responding slowly to me. Ichthyos (talk) 06:15, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, big articles like this one usually open slower than smaller articles, Ichthyos. Flyer22 (talk) 06:19, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You, recently, made an edit to the 1963–1976: Early life section suggesting that Whitney Houston's non-African ancestry was more distant than her African ancestry, and that she was mostly of African ancestry. This can't be factually stated without having her genetic DNA results for both of her parents, which is something she never participated in publicly. According the to this video interview (starting at the :54 mark) of Cissy Houston, Whitney's mother, Whitney's maternal great-grandfather, John Drinkard, Jr., was full Native American. If you go to the 1:00 mark, Cissy Houston states that her great-great-grandfather (Whitney's great-great-great-grandfather) was fully Dutch. Furthermore, Whitney Houston's maternal great-grandmother, Susan Bell Drinkard (nee Fuller), is described by Cissy Houston as being 'Dutch'. The full Dutch ancestor would have been that of Susan Bell Fuller, the great-grandmother.

Furthermore, and not included in the article (looking for source to cite), her New Jersey native father was also half Caucasian, purportedly, half Italian.

This would mean that her non-African ancestry is more recent than her African ancestry as she would be further removed from direct African parentage via the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade. Her direct European and Indigenous American parentage is more recent. Therefore, it's inaccurate to state that these ancestries are more distant than her African-slave parentage. Bab-a-lot (talk) 23:26, 16 February 2012 (UTC) lf[reply]

Hi, why are you adding birthname for cases like Thomas Mulcair? I think it is for cases like Marilyn Monroe or Madonna, where the birthname is actually different from the name the person is known as. -- P.T. Aufrette (talk) 06:46, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I guess we disagree on whether the J. is significant. Consider the following sentences:

• Cary Grant was born Archibald Alexander Leach in 1904.
• Thomas Mulcair was born Thomas J. Mulcair in 1954.

The first sentence sounds natural, whereas the second sentence sounds odd and redundant; no one would write out the second sentence or say it out loud. So my criterion would be to only use birthname in cases where this kind of sentence makes sense. -- P.T. Aufrette (talk) 08:04, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's just that "Cary Grant was born Archibald Leach" is identical to "Cary Grant's birthname was Archibald Leach", which in turn is identical to specifying a birthname field. Or at least, that's the way I interpreted it. :-) -- P.T. Aufrette (talk) 08:22, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi - there is a report about your desired addition at the BLP noticeboard - Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Harrison_Ford - perhaps you want to make four case fdor inclusion there - Youreallycan 09:33, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There was no "addition". I was not "adding" anything to the article. I was "reverting" something "back" into the article that's been there for over six years. This is why I have no energy to even get involved in this. When you have to start off by explaining something so basic as that. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 11:30, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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You eliminated "Category:American people of Irish descent" from Richard J. Rabbitt's page (as "unsourced"). What source is required to maintain that category?

Your edit on Montaigne makes no sense. I have several biographies of him, and nowhere does it mention that his mother's mother was Catholic and his mother's father was not. His mother's family, as far as any biographies know, were Catholic of Spanish/Marrano origin. Please edit more carefully. Avaya1 (talk) 23:13, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I looked into it. You are correct about maternal-grandmother. New research also suggests that Montaigne's father's family likely had Marrano origin. L’Histoire Juive de Montaigne ( Paris: 2001), page 76. Avaya1 (talk) 23:54, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just thought I would pop by and thank you for your work on the Thomas Mulcair article, as it did need a lot of work and as a Topp supporter I was not the most literate or impartial on the subject. ;) Hamish Paul Wilson (talk) 18:27, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] [2] [3]. WP:SCROLL says not to do this. Gimmetoo (talk) 17:58, 23 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Probably needs some commas: "Scrolling lists, and boxes that toggle text display between hide and show, should not conceal article content, including reference lists, image galleries, and image captions." The "that toggle..." clause was meant to restrict "boxes", not "lists and boxes". "Reference lists" are either the notes produced by cite.php, or lists of refs in bullet or other form. Gimmetoo (talk) 21:39, 23 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Thought I'd ask from where do you know Alexa Davalos? Actually do you know if she has other projects aside from L.A. Noir.

Thanks.

PS I originally added the L.A. Noir info in her entry (before I had an account). Not sure I thought to mention that but did.

PPS as far as her nationality goes, while I think she's an American actress - there's an argument to be made for her as French. In fact, the fashionmodeldirectory.com has her listed as a french model. Then again it also states she's an actress now, even though she hasn't acted in over two years - a shame really. But I digress.

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Given our recent discussion this might be of interest for you: Talk:Jessica_Chastain

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I'd like to thank BOTH of you for your participation on the talk page. We really need input from other editors, so your comments are valued. Both of you state a very clear preference for a birthdate of 1977, and consider a 1981 date as false. I suspect you're right, but I'm totally confused by the fact that the RS are conflicting. Therefore I don't take any particular side in the issue, other than to seek to enforce policy.

Since you both so strongly prefer one date, what sources are you using? I'd like to evaluate them. -- Brangifer (talk) 04:51, 27 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't prefer a particular date (see the 3 options listed in the discussion). After superficially browsing the various sources in the discussion, I basically only oppose the 1981-only option. The 1977-only option may be justifiable if people can agree what the official records say, i.e. when it is is obvious to everybody that the official records for her are authentic and state her date or year of birth. Short of that state both dates or none, with those 2 options being possible in any case anyhow.--Kmhkmh (talk) 05:39, 27 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't seen any official records yet. Have you? -- Brangifer (talk) 05:47, 27 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, only (indirect) "conclusions" from genealogy websites. Nevertheless I pointed the (potential) option C since the birthday certificate issue was brought up in the discussion earlier. And some people seemed to entertain the notion that WP should/could knowingly publish false information, which imho is a misreading of policy intent due to an overly literal policy without regard of context, that is the concrete case, other policies, policy and project goals. So if we had indeed an (unquestionably) authentic copy of her actual birth certificate, then I would argue strongly for C, but so far we haven't.--Kmhkmh (talk) 09:45, 27 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think anyone would advocate for publishing information that we "know" is wrong, but only while there is still doubt and sources are conflicting, we parrot what RS state. Using logic (IOW OR) we can conclude that not all those dates can be right, but we don't know for sure which ones. That's where we're at now. As soon as we get clarity, we'll eliminate the wrong ones. We haven't seen a birth certificate yet. I thought maybe you had since you were so sure.

Genealogy websites are notoriously inaccurate, which causes me no end of grief, since I'm the family genealogist. -- Brangifer (talk) 15:09, 27 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

We're not talking about a family tree of Jessica Chastain listing her as born in 1977. But the combination of the California Birth Record (1977) with that early article that called her "21" seals the deal. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 17:56, 27 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I guess I haven't seen them. Would you please provide them here? I'm interested in anything that will seal the deal and put this issue to rest! -- Brangifer (talk) 02:56, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean? I checked the California Birth Records on ancestry.com, which someone referenced on her talk page, and the Jessica Chastain born March 24, 1977 seems like a very good match, mother's maiden name "Chastain" (no other plausible matches in any plausible year). As for the article that says she was 21 in 1998, it's here and it was linked right at the top of the Jessica Chastain talk page. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 03:15, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

1. The metroactive source is currently being used to document an instance mentioning 21 years, which tends to back up a birth year near 1977. So far so good. It's not absolute proof, but it's in a RS, so we're using it. That's good.

2. I just searched the talk page and didn't find any reference to ancestry.com or California Birth Records. Do you have it and will you just copy it here so we can look at it?

I'm deliberately avoiding discussing this on the talk page because of the personal attacks I always get from the IP. Here we're experienced editors who can civilly discuss and analyze this in peace, and I'm hoping you can provide good proof for the 1977 date. That would settle this problem. -- Brangifer (talk) 03:57, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, it starts off with "Her record on the CA birth index has her " (on the talk page). Well, if you search, at ancestry.com, for Jessica Chastain born March 24, all you get is "Name: Jessica M Chastain Birth Date : 3 / 24 / 1977 Gender : Female Mother's Maiden Name : Chastain Birth County: Sacramento". You can also search here, but there is no mother's maiden name there. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 04:28, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So we have unofficial (i.e. non-governmental) genealogy websites listing someone who could very well be her for that date. Interesting. (I've often had trouble finding any information for the current generation in my own research, but more information for the older generations. I imagine that if any of our family were Mormons, the situation would be very different.) Unfortunately for us, I don't know of any genealogy websites that are considered RS for Wikipedia use, but for family tree research, they are often good places to get information and tips. -- Brangifer (talk) 04:46, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Only three Jessica Chastains ever born in California. The other two definitely ain't her. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 04:48, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, those are the only ones yet submitted by users of the website. (There could be others.) It's probably true that she's the one from Sacramento, but it's not a RS. Although it's unofficial, it still tends to make me believe that she's born in 1977. Now to get something more reliable! -- Brangifer (talk) 04:55, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, no, you don't get it. The users of these websites do not submit these listings. These are the complete California Birth Records, uploaded by ancestry.com. There are no missing entries. These are straight from the source and complete. No user-editing in this department. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 04:57, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ummm....ancestry.com isn't official. It's user-created and edited. Now if ancestry.com has special access to official state birth records, that would be a different matter. Is that what you're saying? Do they really pay for all those records? -- Brangifer (talk) 05:06, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if they pay for them, or how much, but these are all the official records, straight from the source. There's no question about that. These are not uploaded by users, these are not created by users, and you can't edit the California Birth Records, try as you might. To sum up, if your question is "Now if ancestry.com has special access to official state birth records" - the answer is, yes, they do. There is some interesting material over at California Birth Index but once again neither of the links I sent you are user-created or user-edited in any way, shape, or form. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 05:10, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Very interesting! The current state of affairs seems a bit complicated, according to the CBI article, but they have had them and seem to still list part of the information. Now, do we have a ruling that says we can use ancestry.com as a RS here? If we can get such a ruling, we could probably settle the matter right away! Would you like to start a thread at RS/N? -- Brangifer (talk) 05:17, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't doubt that it could be recognized as a reliable source. The problem is original research, how do we know that it's the same Jessica Chastain? Certainly in 1977 it wouldn't have said "Jessica Chastain, Oscar nominee", and so it doesn't say so there today. Of course we can make a very scientific guess that it is... but... All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 06:12, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Darn! I do see your point though. It (very slightly) borders on OR and SYNTH violations, but if we can find RS which back it up, then it's their OR and SYNTH, and not ours, which is okay. It is editors, and not RS, which must not make novel synthesis. -- Brangifer (talk) 06:16, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If we can simply convince the people at Talk:Jessica Chastain that the California Birth Index is the smoking gun, then we can just use the "age 21" thing as a source. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 06:18, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The article's talk page has now gotten a "stuck" label on it! I've never seen that before, but it's true. We need to kick start this issue into life again. Would it be okay with you if we started a new section there by copying this whole thread? That might get the discussion going again, with these last points to prime the pump. -- Brangifer (talk) 04:30, 5 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I do not claim to retain the rights and priviledges to the text on my page. You should feel free to copy and paste it as you wish, or re-publish it in book form for a hefty sum without need of royalties. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 04:45, 5 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

LOL! I understand, but it wouldn't be right to "just do it" without your acceptance. I'll do it now and let's see what happens. Thanks. -- Brangifer (talk) 04:54, 5 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the useful information. All in all, it is clear that Tom Rosenthal is not Jewish, but only of Jewish descent.--Bbrezic (talk) 13:04, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 15:05, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I saw you removed the ethnicity of Shiva Rose from the lead per WP:MOSBIO. Are you sure that in her case the ethnicity is not relevant to her notable activities? It would seem to me that it is. Debresser (talk) 21:26, 12 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I just saw your Pinker ethnicity edit. Canadian would be a lack of ethnicity :) --Javaweb (talk) 10:11, 23 January 2013 (UTC)Javaweb[reply]

What do you mean? Yes, I removed "Canadian" from it because it isn't an "ethnicity". All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 10:16, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I note the insulting ad hominem argument you make here, without further comment at this time. --John (talk) 15:38, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed more unsourced "Jewish" categories than you and your BLP friends ever have, ever will, combined, and times 100. The difference between me and people like you is that I like to remove unsourced categories and you like to remove sourced ones. That makes your edits disruptive and wasteful of time, and I don't like that. Quit while you're ahead, or find cases where there's actual ambigiuity, like Adam Yauch. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 21:09, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't like your tone. There was no need to insult me in the diff I highlighted and there was no need for your snark ("people like you", "your BLP friends") when I pointed it out. If you find my edits disruptive, address it in one of the recognised steps of dispute resolution rather than issuing personal attacks, please. I'm afraid that if you continue like this you will find yourself unable to continue with the work you do and in which you take such evident pride. You may have the last word as I am unwatching, but please do bear my advice in mind. Good evening to you. --John (talk) 21:31, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There is a dispute about Sondra Locke's year of birth. Some sources say 1944 while others say 1947. Because of this dispute, both years are listed in the opening sentence of her Wikipedia page. None of the sources that say she was born in 1947 are reliable. However, there are many reliable sources that say she was born in 1944:

Sondra Locke's marriage license [4] to Gordon Leigh Anderson on September 25, 1967 (available publicly through the state archives or Ancestry.com) lists her birthdate as 5/28/44. MSN movies [5] and the Internet Movie Database [6] say that she was born in 1944. A 1989 People magazine article [7] gives Locke's age as 45, correlating to a 1944 birth year. The Middle Tennessee State University yearbook from 1963 has a photo of her [8] appearing in a university production of Arthur Miller's play, The Crucible. For Locke to have attended a university during the 1962-63 semester, she would have to have been born no later than 1944 unless she graduated high school early, which is unlikely given that she makes no mention of it in her autobiography. Locke does not mention her year of birth in her autobiography. On 28 May 2011, Sondra Locke turned 67 according to ABC News [9], Yahoo! News [10], the Associated Press [11], Leigh Valley News [12], and The Boston Globe [13]; this directly correlates to her being born on 28 May 1944.

Sondra Locke's Wikipedia page, in my opinion, should only list 1944 as her year of birth. There is no question that she was born in 1944. I am requesting that you make this correction to Sondra Locke's page, because every time another user has made this correction, their edits have been reverted without merit. 131.239.63.5 (talk) 03:39, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Tennessee Marriage Record confirms 1944. I don't know that I can do much, though. There was a long discussion about this with many editors at Talk:Sondra Locke, and it looks like saying 1944, with a maybe 1947, was the consensus. That isn't that unreasonable, at least for the moment. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 04:30, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This particular editor's problem is that he is indefinitely blocked, and his edits keep being reverted because of block evasion. WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Excuseme99 for details if you are interested.—Kww(talk) 02:46, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nah, I don't really care about editors, just about facts. If he/she/it is right, they're right. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 17:31, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

re: Your edit here ... you are correct, Maher's mother never attended. I was trying to find a way to convey that his father stopped taking everyone except his mother, who never attended in the first place. Your wording makes it sound like a strictly father & son affair when others were involved, but it is no less accurate than my wording, I guess. Not going to argue about it. I do note that you and I both appear to be going off what Maher actually said in his Religulous movie, and not the actual cited source at the end of this content ;-) Regards, Xenophrenic (talk) 04:28, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I implemented your suggestion. Unless he has disowned some family members that I don't know about, he has just one sister, Kathy. He says in the first 6 minutes of his film, "we had this family where one person was Jewish, and the other three were Catholic...". Hey, congrats on hitting the 100K mark! Regards, Xenophrenic (talk) 15:56, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. That's a scary mark. I feel old. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 15:56, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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One hundred thousand? Oh no, what have I done... All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 15:57, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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After looking at Prometheus (disambiguation), I'm unsure about singling out the Ridley Scott film at the top of Prometheus. My concern is "recentism." Now, on the one hand I'm quite sure that the movie has spiked article traffic way up, and that's why over the last week or so I've tried to clean up the mythology article and write a more pertinent intro. (The first sentence used to be entirely about whose son and brother he was, just a list of names, and no mention of the creation of man, which is pretty pertinent for the movie allusion.) I pulled what had been a footnote on the etymology of the name to its own section, and after seeing the movie myself was glad I'd done so, since linguistic heritage is a minor theme, and "Indo-European" is even mentioned once.

On the other hand, since we're an encyclopedia and not a fan site, and since we can't engage in OR by pointing out in the article on the film some of the possible mythic and cultural allusions of the name, I'm reluctant to facilitate a reader's search for the movie if it means they skip at least glancing at the first paragraph of Prometheus. My thinking is that readers may just pick up something they can use or find illuminating at that article, or even the dab. This is perhaps a teacherly kind of concern, and the article on the movie is far superior to the average pop-culture plot summary. But it doesn't have a top note pointing to the dab or to the mythological figure, and doesn't even contain a link to the mythological figure, as far as I can see. And again, given the many astronomical and literary uses of Prometheus with a more established history of usage, I think it's undue weight to single out the movie at this time. Cynwolfe (talk) 15:34, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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No that wasn't a skit. If you can't tell the difference between when it's real vs a skit, then you shouldn't go claiming it's a skit. Leno frequently mentions things about a guests past or other factual detail about them that seems unreal or like a skit, but is actually factual. Andy Samberg stated that his birth name isn't David and that he was born in Berkeley not Alameda. Unless you have a verified copy of his birth certificate, you can't seriously say that he's the same person as someone else born in a different place with a different first name. It's quite possible for people living near each other and born on or near the same date to have the same or similar name. I know this for a fact because growing up, there was a kid that had a name like mine, just with a different middle initial. Are you going to now tell me that my middle name is different than what I know it to be? You can't realistically say it's not possible unless you have done some serious stalking of Samberg and know more about him than anyone else on Earth could possible know. Don't get me wrong, I respect your desire to put what you *think* is correct, but you're acting like he doesn't know his own past. I'm not denying that it's possible that he's mistaken, but if he says it as fact, then without undeniable proof that would have him saying he truly didn't know, what he says about himself should be respected. LordOfTheWolves (talk) 07:34, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"I've been working with genealogy and birth records for years, so you're not going to convince me." So what you're saying is that it's not possible for you to be mistaken? No offense but that's arrogance and you're mistaken, that wasn't a skit. That was part of the actual interview. You're obviously not a frequent viewer of the show, otherwise you'd know that it wasn't a skit where things are faked or to not be trusted. As I mentioned before, Leno tends to do those things with his guests and what's said is real, not scripted. If you seriously think it was scripted, then you have a lot to learn. I know they do a rehearsal interview prior to taping, but that doesn't mean the truth is scripted or 'invented'. Please respect what I'm saying, just as you want others to respect what you say. Also, please stay off of my page until you accept that you're not infallible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LordOfTheWolves (talk • contribs) 08:23, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi there, when you recently made a change to the articles of Ashley Olsen and Mary-Kate Olsen, you removed "Fuller" as the mother's surname. In your edit summary, you said "California Birth Index lists it as Jones, not Fuller." I wonder if you meant to add "Jones" into the article as the mother's surname? Thank you. Safehaven86 (talk) 01:58, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Got it. Since they were married when the twins were born, I'm assuming she took the name Olsen. If I find a source that says so, I'll add that they were born to "David and Jarnette Olsen." I think that would make sense, assuming I find a source. Thanks for your edits. Safehaven86 (talk) 03:21, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to have deleted that; I looked for the reference within the article and didn't find it. Thanks for correcting and expanding that.842U (talk) 11:06, 27 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Putting her name in the infobox is a good idea but when I looked at it just now, the combination of her name and the brackets made me think she might not be his real mother, but a Foster parent. An ambiguity that could be solved by not using the brackets? Or just me? What do you think? Britmax (talk) 09:16, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that: made the change. Glad to know it wasn't just me! Britmax (talk) 09:37, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, All Hallow's. Not too forward at all. In fact, I'd first like to compliment you for your editing in general; whenever I see your name on one of my watchlisted articles, I know I'm going to see a knowledgeable, well-considered edit. I might occasionally tweak it for some technical or formatting reason, but it's nice to know I'm working with a good and thoughtful editor. My thanks to you for all you work.

I agree that British Birth Records at ancestry.com makes February 1988 the latest timeframe for her birth, and that the May 19, 1988 date should be discounted. The Twitter posts implying December 27 are strong, but not explicit — many people celebrate their birthdays on a different date than the actual day, since they might want to have the party or the dinner on a weekend when friends can make it. It's the same with people I know whose birthdays fall on Christmas Day — they have their celebration on a different day near it.

Given The Observer, a highly RS site, I think the safest thing would be to say "circa December 1987 or January 1988". Because we're an encyclopedia — something which, by its very nature and definition people look to for the most concrete, definitive, "last word" on a subject — I believe we should err conservatively and say only what we feel is irrefutable. I think this phrasing accomplishes that. I'll certainly support efforts to keep May 19, 1988 out of the article. With regards, Tenebrae (talk) 18:27, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

RE: LILY COLE.

I agree that IMDb is not always reliable although they have tightened up their standards and won't add or change certain data (especially dates of birth) without a URL from a presumably reliable source. In fact they don't consider Wikipedia a reliable source due to the open editing nature of Wiki. Like I said I didn't want to buy 60 credits that I probably wasn't going to use. (Intelius allows you to buy one at a time for a relatively cheap price.) So thanks for letting me know that her birth was registered in February 1988, hence she could not have been born in May 1988. Quis separabit? 22:37, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello All Hallow's Wraith and Jsigned, I must say that your antics over the last day or three have been quite amusing. However, you both should be informed (since inexplicably you have not already figured it out on your own) that this is not how we operate at English Wikipedia. If you are having a dispute, you need to actually communicate with each other. If you find this difficult, seek a third opinion or otherwise pursue our avenues for dispute resolution. I'm heading off to sleep quite soon, when I wake up tomorrow I will check back. You are both well aware of your own and each others actions, if you are persisting in the same patterns then, I will consider removing your editing privileges here. Start talking, or be prepared to stop editing. Please. Franamax (talk) 05:31, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm long overdue to be blocked. Perhaps permanently? I'm just out of control. Going around correcting people's birthdates when every "reliable" source agrees otherwise (so obviously they're right), being followed by perverts who revert every one of my edits (hey, when you go around adding commas to articles, you're the one asking for it - I learned that lesson, and not the easy way), and finally, confronting POV-pushing pugilists who add overindulgent nonsense to articles that already cover the same ground and who have reached immobile "consensus", apparently with themselves. So you are totally right. I need to be restrained here. How does the Justin Bieber song go? I think it's "Block me, block me, say that you'll block me..." It didn't happen with Lily Cole, I'm not sure about this Jsigned guy, but between him and Tim Morehouse I would say the inevitable blockage of All Hallow's Wraith is just around the corner. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 06:20, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What about your other choice, where you ask for help from other editors? None of whom would advise you to post random texts to orangebar someone. Find more effective ways, read up on WP:DR dispute resolution and try one of those. Keep it simple and address content issues rather than your feelings about the other editor. There's no WP:Deadline. :) Franamax (talk) 06:30, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have this problem where I don't really care about Wikipedia editors (myself included, of course), just about article content, and don't like to waste my time with internal squabbling, even if it involves myself. Hey, never mind. The Jsigned thing is too weird to discuss and he's a short-term problem anyway. Epeefleche is another matter because he is a long-term problem. What do you think of this - Epeefleche changed the sentence on Tim Morehouse to read "Morehouse, who is Jewish, is the son of Eloise and John Morehouse". Does this read right to you? Morehouse has a Jewish maternal grandmother, and evidently three non-Jewish grandparents. His grandmother also converted to Quakerism, it seems. Morehouse does have a sense of Jewish identity, given his interview comments, and says he was raised with a "mixture" of religious traditions. Now, what I just wrote out right here already is in the article text, in great detail (probably too excessive, at that). Me and another editor seemed to agree on that. What sense does it make to add "who is Jewish" to the text in addition to everything I've just said? Isn't that, aside from being misleading, also very redundant, and, on a purely aesthetic level, it reads very strangely as text? All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 06:38, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

On the Morehouse thing, I wouldn't act as an admin there, since I don't find the addition appropriate either. But I'm only talking about your dance with Jsigned, which you need to address more effectively or leave be. You can't bombard pages to make a POINT, that leads to chaos. Slow down a second and outline what your specific content issue (or issues) with Jsigned is (are), and figure out a way to resolve them. There are noticeboards and talk pages galore on this project, so pls use them to solve my own little piece of the problem. Then I can ignore the rest of yours. :) Franamax (talk) 07:16, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My content issue is that I don't like to be followed and have my edits reverted en masse for no particular reason (i.e. this, this, or this). Apparently because I made this unforgiveable edit on a page Jsigned watches, I have to be stalked and reverted on every little thing. Well, no deal. I don't like that, nor do I feel like wasting time on dispute resolution, since I don't know what the dispute is either, other than crazy. Like I said, Jsigned is a short-term problem, he's already grown tired of this, I think, and I probably won't even remember his name a week from now. Epeefleche, on the other hand, is a long-term problem who's edited like this for a very long cycle now, so if you agree with me, great! Why doncha help out? All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 07:25, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop reverting edits on the Zachary Gordon page. If you continue to do so in an unappropriate manner... YOUR EDITING PRIVILEGES WILL BE REVOKED!!! 123.2.142.50 (talk) 08:16, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean reverting where you ask for an image directly in the article text? Nooo, I think your warning is a little misplaced here, maybe you should put it on your own talk page 123.2. You should be discussing on Talk:Zachary Gordon and asking for images there. Franamax (talk) 08:43, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think its better to place countries after cities in lead because most people don't know where Surrey exactly is. Thoughts? Ow I also left messages on Talk:Andrew Garfield. Regards AdabowtheSecond (talk) 03:32, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know, I thought it reads better this way and listing the countries was more ungainly. It already says he's American and British in the sentence right before, and then the exact countries are mentioned in early life, so, to me, it seemed a little much. I could be wrong. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 06:08, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I see your point AdabowtheSecond (talk) 14:37, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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OK. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 06:53, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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All Hallows! I didn't look to see who I was (very productively) editing with! How the hell are you?!

Norfolk's a county? Uh ... D'oh!

Please do fix however is appropriate in a way that explains (perhaps in the footnote) what those other place names are doing there. I'm sure I'm not the only Ugly American misunderstanding it! With regards, --Tenebrae (talk) 22:09, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just alerting you, as per Community reassessment guidelines at Wikipedia:Good article reassessment ("please notify major contributing editors" to a given article) that a Good Article Reassessment has begun for Mila Kunis, at Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Mila Kunis/1. --Tenebrae (talk) 02:35, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello All Hallow's Wraith. You've recently removed a lot of names from the category Czech Jews. The information is — in most cases — easily verifiable. I've added references to Kája Saudek, Jan Saudek and Miloš Kopecký, please, check. I admit that your edits may be justified (.. and deleting is so easy), but I don't consider this kind of editing very constructive. Why not to look for sources before deleting? --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 06:23, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thanks for the explanation, but there's a lot of others, i. e. Rudolf Wels, who died in Auschwitz with his family. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 06:44, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This edit of yours to Lucy Stone brought what I think is incorrect information to the article. Do you remember where you saw it? Binksternet (talk) 02:56, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This article has had her listed (for years now) as a Covergirl model and spokesperson; you deleted this; could you enlighten us as to your reason for deleting this historically correct reference ? As one of the most 400 active editors, changing or deleting for the mere sake of it is not editing, IMHO, especially where the change or deletion is historically incorrect. Thank you. Taninao0126 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.194.226.170 (talk) 13:00, 4 September 2012 (UTC) P.S. I see now that the "Category:American CoverGirl spokesperson" does not exist; please note however that she is specifically listed and discussed in the Category:CoverGirl which should be perhaps in the fourth of fifth line in that last section. Please correct / add if you will. Taninao0126 (talk) 13:17, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That's right. Red link, as I stated. The category did not exist, so I deleted it. Category:CoverGirl does not exist either. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 02:03, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, maybe. I'm not an expert. There's quite a bit already about her antecedents and I think the point is that she is "well connected". The book about the 30 assault unit specifically mentions the relationship between Peter H-W and Rosie.BONNUIT (talk) 10:49, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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You removed The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus from the filmography of Quinn Lord based on the edit summary "no evidence", yet Lord's name appears in the credits at the film's IMDb page. Admittedly, IMDb is not considered the most reliable source, but since the film's own official website appears to be broken, what better source do we have? WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 11:46, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ugh! I was trying to remove Cyber Seduction: His Secret Life and instead I removed Parnasuss. Good call. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 23:55, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Paris's mother and grandmother had the same name, so when she was younger they already called her Kathy. All the family members and books refer to her as Kathy, not Kathleen. Do you think it is still necessary we include that as her maiden name? Spelling Style (talk) 04:09, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey thanks for your input on the Mitt Romney talk page regarding children in the infobox, much appreciated :) Lady Lotus (talk) 23:52, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Children's names in infobox is a rather irriating recent phenomenon. Thank you for removing them. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 00:20, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Such as [14], could you only add the field when we have the full middle name? I know some people just have initials, but we should not be insinuating such without a cite, IMO. Thanks. – Connormah (talk) 00:02, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I too agree. 117Avenue (talk) 05:18, 23 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have reverted your most recent edit to Alison Redford. The Edmonton Journal reference was added by User:Connormah in October 2011, confirmed by myself the same day, and confirmed by you in April 2012. Please remember that a reference does not become invalid when it's website link becomes inactive. Thanks, 117Avenue (talk) 05:18, 23 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's true that I added the full name to the infobox, but I just did it because it was already in the article. I didn't look at any sources then, and I didn't see a source there today, which is why I tagged it. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 06:16, 23 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's difficult to reference things like a person's name or birthday, because it doesn't look good, aesthetically, to have a reference in the first sentence or infobox. 117Avenue (talk) 04:00, 24 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi! Since you interested in that field, I was wondering whether you have to archives.com by any change.

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Great job on starting that article, but before you get too far, know that this exists, too: User:Tonylennox/sandbox. Cheers, -- Irn (talk) 18:50, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think we're editing at the same time. You go ahead and make your edit at Stanley Tucci. I'll hold off a few minutes. --Tenebrae (talk) 19:17, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That poor little edit. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 19:27, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You are a man of good humor and patience . . .   : )   --Tenebrae (talk) 22:37, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not so much the second part... at least outside of Wikipedia. :-) All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 03:12, 11 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Cheers! All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 04:06, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok so I didn't see a particular section in the talk page about the name, maybe I missed it, I admit I was skimming because I just saw a lot of talk about her birthday? But there's an article by the Daily Mail that says she was born Jessica Howard and later took Chastain because it's her mother's maiden name, so why is it not being allowed to be in her article as her birth name? Just curious Lady Lotus (talk) 02:58, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Daily Mail reference

"She was born Jessica Howard (Chastain is her mother’s maiden name), one of five children who grew up in a small town in northern California where her mother Geri runs a vegan restaurant and her father Michael is a fireman."

Gotcha, and nice researching, you should be a detective! ;) Happy editing! Lady Lotus (talk) 14:49, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to bring the AG article to Good article status. Since your the article's top contributor with over 200 edits, I was wondering if you would like to nominate it together. — Robin (talk) 03:06, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2 new responses on my talk page at User talk:Robin#Andrew Garfield. — Robin (talk) 13:54, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And now we wait for a reviewer :). — Robin (talk) 20:43, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It passed!!! Yay! — Robin (talk) 17:58, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Great! Now the FA work begins. :-) All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 20:44, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hahaha. Happy editing. :) — Robin (talk) 01:35, 13 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As an editor who has worked on the article Gemma Arterton, you're invited to a discussion at Talk:Gemma Arterton#Infoxbox image change without consensus regarding an anon IP. --Tenebrae (talk) 00:33, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, perhaps it'll be of interest to you that editor Sionk had removed (without any discussion) your contribution to Tom Holland concerned with references to familytreemaker.genealogy.com and ancestry.com because he/she thinks they are unreliable. As a result, a good chunk of the text with all the facts concerned with Tom Holland's birthplace, birthdate and his family are no longer there. I wonder whether you are able to present your arguments - as far as I understand you have used those sources in a number of Wiki articles. As a creator of Tom Holland I am interested in having properly verified basic facts about him in his Wiki article, and at the moment they are not there. Best Regards, AdVal (talk) 13:43, 3 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Re this edit, as I read the documentation at Template:Infobox person, birth names should only be used if they are different from a stage or business name, such as Reg Dwight for Elton John. Please take a look at the documentation and let me know what you think.--ukexpat (talk) 15:47, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply. I favour the Elton John/Reginald Dwight interpretation so I have begun a discussion at Template talk:Infobox person#Birth name parameter. Thanks.--ukexpat (talk) 21:34, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey,thanks for pointing it out here,not for acting but he was there for some other purpose,Plz mention it.---zeeyanketu <sup>discutez</sup> 08:40, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciate your diligence, but in correcting info about public figures and publicizing information such as their mother's maiden names you are providing very useful information to identity thieves which impacts every member of the public figure's family.

Since the value of this info to general readers is minimal -- versus, for instance, facts about their professional careers which are properly public information -- you should weigh the value of publicizing such sensitive information against the potential negative consequences it could lead to. Publicizing this kind of information could have catastrophic consequences for innocent persons, including the person whose profile is on Wikipedia and all of his or her family members. If you wish to contact me privately to discuss, please let me know -- I'm not certain how to set that up via Wikipedia but assume it can be done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.198.59.52 (talk) 17:56, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker)By definition, if so-and-so's mom's maiden name is in Wikipedia, it should be there only if it is already openly published common knowledge. There is no reason to cripple an encyclopedia in the name of a public hysteria about "OMG Identity Theives!". --Orange Mike | Talk 18:04, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think the anonymous user is talking about Kevin Kline. This is quite a curious case. Obviously, Kevin Kline is a very famous actor. Kevin Kline's mother's maiden name was "Kirk". This fact is published in obituaries of Kline's mother (i.e. here or here), as well as in reference books about Kevin Kline (i.e. some of these). The anonymous user above has been changing her maiden name to "Delaney" for many years now, in Kline's article. What I find odd is that they haven't been simply deleting "Kirk", but rather specifically replacing it with "Delaney", as if it were an error. So what is up? All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 22:19, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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It was a widely publicized news story when Khloe got married that she dropped her middle name. I did appropriately link to such a source. I am not sure why you readded it to the lead. ToriJana (talk) 23:15, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"It was a widely publicized news story when Khloe got married that she dropped her middle name." I must have missed it. I don't watch CNN or the nightly news. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 02:37, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

By my count, you've reverted the removal of "part" from Selena Gomez seven times since the beginning of February.[15][16][17][18][19][20][21] I don't know why it has been removed so many times but perhaps it's because they feel it's redundant. To some extent most people are "part" something and Italian American includes people of part Italian ancestry anyway. --AussieLegend (✉) 10:09, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm reverting the removal of something that is properly sourced, and that has been removed without explanation (which probably qualifies as vandalism). No, I don't think "part" is redundant at all. To describe Selena Gomez's mother as "Italian American" is grossly misleading; it implies to me something quite different than what is factually accurate: that her mother was adopted, by a couple who is not of Italian descent, and apparently is of partial ethnic Italian ancestry by birth. So her mother is not like Marisa Tomei or Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio, and she is not "Italian American" in the same way that her father is "Mexican American". Wikipedia is specific everywhere else, it should be here. Otherwise, by the same logic of redundnacy, we could simply describe Gomez as "Mexican American" and not even say her mother isn't, and so on. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 10:47, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've moved the above back here to keep the discussion all in the one place. The removal doesn't qualify as vandalism. It has been removed by several editors and while edit summaries are encouraged, removal without an edit summary is permitted. The article isn't describing Gomez's mother as "Italian American", it says she's of Italian descent". It's the use of "descent" that makes "part" redundant, as "descent" implies "part". --AussieLegend (✉) 11:05, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Descent" implies "part"? I've never heard that before. Then how does one imply "full"? And it's not being removed by different editors, it's being removed by the same editor who keeps creating new accounts. Like I said, if you don't want to be precise, why not just state that Gomez is of Mexican descent? Or just that she is of Italian descent? And so on. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 11:19, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Full" is shown simply by omitting "descent"; i.e. "Gomez's mother is Italian". Geelove13 has edited only 2 of the articles edited by Ashleyhudgens,[22] that's not enough evidence to convict either of sockpuppetry. I've been tempted to remove it myself, and another editor seems to agree.[23] --AussieLegend (✉) 12:08, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The phrase "Gomez's mother is Italian" implies that her mother was born in Italy, is an Italian immigrant, or is an Italian citizen. Americans who are of entirely Italian descent are not described simply as "Italian" on Wikipedia, and if there are some examples where they are, there shouldn't be. That's inaccurate. They're not Italian, they're American. Geelove13 created their account on March 24, and edited the article of the exact same city in California that Ashleyhudgens did. Are you serious when you say they're not the same person? Of course they are. As for Kww's edit, they weren't editing the sentence that we are discussing. So I don't think their edit is relevant to this discussion. In fact, I don't disagree with their edit, since, by that point in the article, we had established that Gomez is "part" Hispanic. Perhaps it's redundant to repeat something that's already been stated, but it isn't redundant to state it for the first time. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 17:09, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I see Geelove13 (aka Ashleyhudgens) also just deleted ancestry information from Demi Lovato's page, and added Selena Gomez to Italian immigration to Mexico, where her name is clearly relevant. But of course, defend the vandalistic troll, and attack me. Don't worry, though, I know I'm always wrong about everything, which is precisely why I will continue to pursue this. I enjoy being wrong. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 17:59, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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You beat me! I just can't believe I'm even on this list. Hats off to ya! — MusikAnimal <sup>talk</sup> 20:57, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I'm #1? I had no idea. I didn't think I edited that much. Rehab it is. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 21:04, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey man I edited the Jim Halpert page relating to The Office (U.S Tv series) This is because I noticed that under his latest occupation it says CEO of Athlead, when actually the company was bought out at the end of the series and the name changed to Athleap so I switched it. I know this wouldn't bother most people but I'm picky about this kind of stuff thanks man. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiki2092 (talk • contribs) 04:41, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I notice you changed the word "on" to a semicolon in the lead sentence of Buzz Aldrin. What style guide are you using? According to WP:BIRTHNAME, it's perfectly good to say "(born birthname on birthdate)"; see the example given for Bill Clinton. But when I look at Bill Clinton, I see someone has changed it there as well. Was there a consensus discussion for the change? Does WP:Manual of Style/Biographies need to be changed? JustinTime55 (talk) 16:21, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The manual of style doesn't really address the issue, does it? It gives an example that uses "on", but the example is about something else (birth names and where to use them). So the use of "on" seems incidental. I'm not sure if there is a guideline on "on" vs semi-colon. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 06:15, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, I'd like to know why you reverted the changes I did to the article, considering the fact that I provided two reliable sources.. Thanks, Yambaram (talk) 04:55, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The sources you put up were all the same source - comedy writer Joel Stein. I don't know if he is a reliable source. The version of his article that ran in the Chicago Tribune (here), states that Peter Chernin's father was Jewish, and that Chernin was raised Unitarian. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 07:19, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Good point. I would've written that Peter, "whose father is Jewish, was raised Unitarian", had I known of this article before. I think it's fair to add this information now, since Joel Stein is a trusted source and because it's another interesting fact which people want to know. Yambaram (talk) 04:58, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Do with the article as you wish. As for Joel Stein, he is as trusted as a camel's back hump. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 05:01, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am not "established" to edit protected pages, but since you frequent the Clint Eastwood article, take notice of this recent edit where Joekiddlouischama knowingly and intentionally removed extensively sourced facts, rewrote neutral sentences with heavy opinion incorporated into them, and deliberately inserted lies. Mystiques00 (talk) 04:22, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I would like input regarding This edit. I have had a lengthy discussion with the editor, who has been very civil with me but we have yet to reach an agreement

• The US.com article where Dina Eastwood exclusively announced her marital separation states: Married since March 31, 1996, Dina and the Million Dollar Baby director have one daughter together, 16-year-old Morgan. Eastwood is also dad to seven other kids, though he has only been married once before.

• The Los Angeles Times states that Eastwood has 8 children: Clint has one child with Dina: 16-year-old Morgan. The "Gran Torino" director and actor has seven other children from various relationships

• USA Today also confirms that Eastwood has 8 children: The couple have one daughter, Morgan, 16. Eastwood has seven other children.

• As does EXTRA.com: The couple has one daughter together, 16-year-old Morgan. Eastwood, 83, has seven other children from various relationships

• Alison Eastwood stated "My dad has eight children by six women" in an August 2011 interview with The Sunday Times.

These are all very reliable sources. The third is especially concrete — his own daughter confirms that he has eight kids by six women. The quote should be restored, because all evidence indicates that it's the truth. There are no legitimate news reports stating who the mystery 8th child is, but that should not prevent the statement and the quote stating how many children he has from being present in the article. 02:16, 30 August 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mystiques00 (talk • contribs)

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In one episode of The Critic, Lovitz's character Jay Sherman comments on the actual Jon Lovitz's "Sephardic good looks." I was confused about this too, as it appears that Lovitz's ancestry is entirely Ashkenazi (Hungarian, etc.). My guess is that it was just a deliberate in-joke based on Lovitz's complexion, or the show's writers did not do the research on Lovitz for a show starring Lovitz, and Lovitz himself didn't complain. BenStein69 (talk) 23:11, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it was probably a joke. I've seen many such errors/jokes about other people. There is a very solid account of Jon Lovitz's ancestry here. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 00:19, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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You added back in that Natasha Lyonne is a stage name. It is not. It has not been sourced in any way as a stage name since she was a child. It was her name in public records that notified the press of her legal issues in her youth.

You added back in that Natasha Lyonne is a stage name. It is not. It has not been sourced in any way as a stage name since she was a child. It was her name in public records that notified the press of her legal issues in her youth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jodisc (talk • contribs) 14:46, 1 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The field says "birth name", so only her name at birth is relevant to that particular section. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 22:23, 1 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It probably refers to the IMDB source (not external link) - number 7? Apparently, IMDB is not considered a "reliable source" @ Wikipedia. =//= Johnny Squeaky 19:32, 6 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, you have reverted the edit I did on Jared Leto's page, removing the SECOND reference to Tony Bryant as his natural father. If you look at the Talk page for the Jared Leto, his law firm has asked that all references to Tony Bryant be removed as incorrect. Someone removed the FIRST reference in the introduction but did NOT remove the SECOND reference in the Early Life section. I have therefore removed the SECOND reference again, which you put back. It is incorrect. Jarrit29 (talk) 19:09, 26 December 2013 (UTC)Jarrit29[reply]

Regarding your recent edit to the Debra Winger page; could you be a bit more specific about the reason for deleting "The Being Experience"? The edit summary listed as the reason "not on imdb". Did you mean that the credit was not listed on her imdb entry, or that an imdb reference is not sufficient for inclusion? It does appear here: [24] at the top of her list of acting credits. The reference to the upcoming project is also listed in several other sources: (search results) [25], (source 1) [26], (source 2) [27], (source 3) [28], and (source 4) [29]. If you don't have any continuing objections, would you mind restoring the information? Best regards. OliverTwisted <sup>(Talk)</sup>(Stuff) 09:16, 5 January 2014 (UTC) [reply]