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Is Guest really a "British actor"? Seems to me he's American.

More information on his childhood and upbringing would be useful. Bastie 12:46, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

According to IMDB, he was born in New York, to a British father (obviously) and an American mother. He appears to have grown up and gone to school in New York. I think it would be appropriate to either call him American or Anglo-American. john k 17:20, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Does he have dual citizenship?

• Yes he has dual citizenship (otherwise he would not be able to hold his hereditary position). 86.17.247.135 01:16, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You don't need citizenship to hold the title but you do to take your seat which he did on the 21st July 1997 Alci12 18:02, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As the son of a diplomat enjoying immunity, Guest would not have been a US citizen by birth were it not for his mother's US citizenship. Only those born in the United States "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" are citizens at birth under jus soli (14th Amendment), and diplomats enjoying immunity, as well as hostile forces occupying US soil, are not "subject to the jurisdiction thereof." However, since his mother was a US citizen by birth, he can claim U.S. birth citizenship. Moreover, as the son of a UK citizen father abroad who was married to the mother at the time of birth (the requirement for children born abroad of UK parents before 1983 to be considered UK citizens at birth), Guest is also a UK citizen by birth. Whether he still is a dual citizen depends upon whether or not he renounced either later in life, as both the UK and US allow dual citizenship. SpanishCastleMagic (talk) 11:19, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article notes that his children with Jamie Lee Curtis are both adopted. Can adopted children in the UK inherit a peerage? Isn't the verbiage in the letter patent usually something like "heirs of the body"? --Jfruh 15:57, 24 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No and yes. The heir presumptive to the Barony is his brother, The Honourable Nicholas Haden-Guest. Proteus (Talk) 23:03, 24 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No, but they can carry the courtesy title "The Honorable", via a 2004 Royal Warrant addressing the styles of a peer's adopted children.

Wow, I love Guest's comedy stuff, but this article has made me think of all sorts of political stuff instead ... since he was born in NY, he was obviously a US citizen ... but does serving in a foreign legislature (as he did when he attended the House of Lords) or, for that matter, just accepting a foreign peerage entail giving up US citizenship? --Jfruh 16:00, 24 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No (although it's an urban legend that it does). Proteus (Talk) 23:03, 24 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

State Department answer. Basically, they give natural-born citizens the benefit of the doubt. He would have to intend to relinquish his citizenship by taking an oath of office to a foreign power. --Dhartung | Talk 12:01, 31 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

If he was a US citizen, he wouldn't be allowed to sit in the HoL anyway, as far as I know. I don't know what the rules are for those holding dual nationality. Badgerpatrol 14:11, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Surely Christopher Guest is not a peer, his ancestor Christopher William Graham Guest, with who the title originated, was only a Life peer, and NOT a hereditary peer. As life peerages can't be inherited the title became extinct on 25 September 1984, when Christopher William Graham Guest died. Alanleonard (talk) 22:09, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How could Christopher Guest, Baron Guest be his ancestor? This Christopher Guest's father, Peter Haden-Guest, 4th Baron Haden-Guest, was born in 1913, and his father, Leslie Haden-Guest, 1st Baron Haden-Guest, was born in 1877. The Christopher Guest, Baron Guest you mentioned was born in 1901. I don't think he's related to this family (especially since he's a "Guest", not a "Haden-Guest"). All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 22:54, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This article is as silly as Guest's comedy--some one re-do the whole thing please unsigned by 65.1.237.28

What's wrong with it? Looks fine to me. sjorford #£@%&$?! 14:08, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

theres nothing here on his work preSpinal Tap I know he did lots of stuff for the National Lampoon in the early 70s stage shows, record albums, the radio show

Wow, he worked in both the twentieth and twenty-first centuries. Impressive!

Well, who hasn't?

If that's true, as it's article says, the Guest movies template should be modified to say 'works by CG' or something, not "mockumentaries by CG". BabuBhatt 22:35, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It certainly isn't a mockumentary; I just changed it.C Ruth 19:01, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Meanwhile a stub exists about Christopher Guest, Baron Guest, so this article should be moved to make place for a disambiguation page, however I'm unsure what the appropriate aim could be. I think there are three possibilities:

• to include his peerage as Christopher Guest, 5th Baron Haden-Guest
• to include his job as Christopher Guest (actor)
• or to include his birthname as Christopher Haden-Guest.

I would prefer the first solution, since he hasn't declined his barony and we have added a title several times to article names of people, who also have not used it. Though I would not have any problem with the second solution either. Any suggestions? ~~ Phoe _talk 09:00, 12 January 2007 (UTC) ~~ [reply]

Well he took his seat in the HoL in '97, I would have thought it should be Christopher Haden-Guest, 5th Baron Haden-Guest. Alci12 18:06, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And Bertrand Russell took his seat in 1931. The case is the same; Guest chooses not to be known by his title, and is de facto known by the name he used before succeeding. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 18:45, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a press release on the subject. Asst. Editor, Crawdaddy! FenderRhodesScholar | Talk 23:42, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If I am not mistaken, Marshall made amplifiers that went to eleven prior to the making of the film, "This is Spinal Tap." Aeckler (talk) 19:20, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As an editor at Crawdaddy!, and to comply with COI guidelines, I am not posting the link to this interview with Christopher Guest and his musical group, Beyman Bros. However, I would like to recommend it on its merits, and hope that an editor will find the time to examine the interview and—if he or she sees fit—post it to the external links section on this page. I appreciate your time. Crawdaddy! [1]
Mike harkin (talk) 23:35, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is this section really necessary? Yeah, I know it's apparently verifiable, since it has sources...but is it notable enough to be worth the risk we are taking in keeping it there. It is awfully negative, and this is a BLP after all. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 05:30, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]