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Political Correctness

Alas, the Beano, like everything else, has fallen victim to political correctness. Where is Sangita the soldier and surely Dennis the Menace should be transformed into Rajiv the Rascal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.43.59.159 (talk) 17:05, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Article quality

Is it me or is this article fairly poorly arranged? It seems to be more a list of random facts than a proper resource people would be able to use to research the comic. There needs to be more about it's lengthy history, how and where it's written, it's stylistic trademark etc. Also that Beano superstars section needs an explanation or deletion, there's no explanation of what it means. Given that the Beano is so iconic for so many Brits of all ages, it should have a much better article. Abigsmurf 09:51, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


This is shit

This just might be the most poorly written article I’ve ever stumbled across.

Smudge

Disambiguation required. the 'Smudge' link goes to a band called Smudge. The Beano character needs a stub page. Sorry, but I don't know how to sort out disambiguation so any help would be appreciated.

Oops. When I added the link last year, no page called 'Smudge' existed. I've now changed the link to Smudge (comics). BillyH 03:19, 16 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Editor

The present editor is Euan Kerr, who has been in this role since 1984.

Is this true? Can anyone else detect something amiss in this name?!?

--Smallbone10 19:06, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Despite the unfortunate pronounciation, it's true. That's his name. BillyH 19:31, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Strip list

I believe that the list of current and past strips needs some modification (with consensus and research). For example, Billy the Cat and Katie should probably not be listed as a past strip, rather as an occasional current strip (it runs in series?) Whilst as of 2006 Les Pretend only seems to appear in annuals. Gordon Bennett has also been absent for a while (but not really long enough to be a past strip IMO) --RK 16:56, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How about Ill Will? I'm not too sure as I haven't seen a Beano in years.--213.7.2.8 14:42, 15 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Editor of the Spectator

Matthew d'Ancona has been appointed to replace Boris Johnson as editor of The Spectator magazine.

This was reported by the BBC News Website on 13 February 2006 - although Boris Johnson resigend as editor in December 2005 when he was appointed to David Cameron's shadow front bench as Higher Education Minister.

Bash Street Kids came before Dennis the Menace

It first appeared under the name "When the bell rings" and later became "The Bash Street Kids". It underwent this name change before Dennis the Menace first appeared, so I think the change is justified.

Well, yeah...but name changes don't really count. Dennis, despite minus Gnasher, still first appeared three years before The Bash Street Kids, so it's still technically the longest running strip. The addition of 'and Gnasher' to the title was simply a renaming based on his new sidekick, not a completely different strip entirely. BillyH 07:34, 5 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Changed back for the reasons I've described. BillyH 16:08, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rewrite

The strip seems to have been picked at recently without really being improved. I have tried to correct the errors (doubtless introducing some new ones of my own), and rewritten to follow Wikipedia standards, including some references (not enough), a lead section which is only a brief summary of what is repeated later, and a new paragraph on the iconic nature of some of the characters. Comments? Remove the rewrite tag? Notinasnaid 11:37, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tags removed, if there any other ways you can improve this article then please say so on it's peer review page. Thanks. Retiono Virginian 16:08, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

This article now has sources. Since Wikipedia rules require sources, this is a good thing, though lots more are needed: a lot in this article has no source, and may be personal research (such as the list of strips). Anyway, with sources comes a particular change to the way of working, which may well be much harder work: the source is now dominant over the content. If the content is to be changed you must make sure that the part of the content which is sourced is still accurately described by the source. Adding more accurate information is wrong, unless the source is updated. The final aim is an article where everything is sourced, so it becomes obvious when anything unsourced is added, so it's easy to remove or tag with {{Fact}}. Why am I saying this? To explain why I reverted this change. Notinasnaid 19:51, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How are you supposed to cite a published source? The list of past strips doesn't match the category box (same with The Dandy), can we fix that without falling foul of WP:OR? Digifiend (talk) 09:16, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Moved lists

The list sections were gargantuan. I've moved them to their own page, and put the link in the "see also" section. Nswinton 20:50, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good call, I think. I've integrated the link by moving it into the "Strips" section using the "further information" tag. Notinasnaid 20:55, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Beanologo.png

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Repeated Stories

I have noticed that The Beano coming out each week has got old strips in it. I know this because I have actually read the stories when they first came out and I still have some. The most obivious repeat is that Wayne the new bash street kid is not in the bash street kids stories anymore. There also are repeats of minnie the minx and bily whizz.--Darkside2000 (talk) 13:16, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong. Wayne appears to have been dropped after a year. Minnie is new stories, Ken Harrison was assigned her after losing his Desperate Dan duties. The current reprints are Billy Whizz, Ivy the Terrible, Fred's Bed (from merged Beezer and Topper) and Riot Squad (occasionally, from Hoot). Digifiend (talk) 12:14, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Minnie's main artists were, in order, Leo Baxendale (1950s-60s), Jim Petrie (1970s-90s), Tom Paterson (2000s), Ken Harrison (2008). I think you must have got Ivy and Minnie mixed up. Digifiend (talk) 12:20, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well Bash Street Kids may be a reprint of old stories because I have read the one about the computer bugs before and I still have comic or annual to prove it.Darkside2000 (talk) 11:39, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, some stories recently seem to be remade, not reprint - one story sounded familiar, until Bea the Mini-Menace appeared. Don't remember that originally, and that story was just a couple of weeks ago. Also consider the fact the artwork style has altered over the years. There was a Nigel Parkinson strip a few weeks ago though, I suspect that was a reprint, and the same for anything in BeanoMAX. Digifiend (talk) 11:59, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looked through my Golden Years books, seems Roger the Dodger used carbon paper to copy homework on at least two occassions in the 1960s. Storylines have always been reused, not always reprinted. Digifiend (talk) 12:04, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

August 2nd is coming...

The last two issues have run adverts saying "beware softies, something big is happening, August 2nd is coming..." Possible birthday issue reference - I reckon it'll be 64 pages instead of 32, as the 60th birthday issue was 48 pages, double the then current 24 pages. Digifiend (talk) 09:05, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reference to bumper birthday issue in this week's edition. Also there's a Gnashional Menace Day on August 2nd - that was what "beware softies" referred to. Both worth mentioning? Digifiend (talk) 07:59, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Nobody's argued, so I'm going to add this info. Digifiend (talk) 09:21, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK, done. I found a secondary online source too, the Beano's sister publication, the Sunday Post newspaper. Digifiend (talk) 09:32, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Somebody's added to the section I just created - good work Mr unregistered user - you should set up an account, I didn't know about that exhibition. Also I see the same person added the last of the missing editors' names. That info came from the anniversary book I mentioned. Good spot. Digifiend (talk) 13:23, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Emperor for updating that section, as I didn't know how to footnote the links. Digifiend (talk) 13:21, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The Sunday Post reference was obsolete apparently only a week after I added it! Now removed. Digifiend (talk) 13:47, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chessington?

Should we mention Beanoland at Chessington World of Adventures?--Editor510 drop us a line, mate 07:55, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead, it is part of the comic's history after all. Digifiend (talk) 12:02, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You never did mention it, so I've added it myself. But check out the Chessington article, seems Beanoland's gonna close down, because the contract is up! Digifiend (talk) 09:21, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What a Waster

The Libertines' song "What A Waster" refers to the Beano. If that's the case, could somebody cite a source i.e. song lyrics? Digifiend (talk) 09:16, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Exact launch date

I've added the exact launch date of issue 1. The date on the cover, 30 July 1938, would be a Saturday, so the Tuesday must be 26 July, I know Tuesday is the right day because of early covers like this one: Image:BeanoJan6-1940.jpg Contrary to what the Hull Daily Mail thinks, where did they get 29th July from, it was The Dandy which came out on Friday's before the war! Digifiend (talk) 12:10, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, that would mean the Hull Daily Mail cannot be used as a reliable source. I have however found a source with the correct date. Digifiend (talk) 09:29, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

oh bugger... price increase one week only and I didn't log in when I added that fact!

I just added something about the Beano this week costing £1.50 instead of 99p - but I forgot to log in first! Silly me... just identifying myself. Digifiend (talk) 11:59, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]


That's very strange, I bought a Beano today at Morissons costing £1.35. Are you sure your Beano cost £1.50? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.34.173.149 (talk) 19:46, 30 September 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Unsourced info

The following is unsourced information:

  • Private Eye refers to The Spectator as "The Hasbeano", with the Spectator's former editor Boris Johnson becoming "Boris the Menace" (occasionally "Beano Boris").
  • The Bluesbreakers with Eric Clapton album from the John Mayall & the Bluesbreakers band, is called "The Beano Album" by Eric Clapton fans, because on the album cover photo he is reading a Beano comic. That comic, No 1242 is extremely sought after by both collectors of the Beano Comic and Eric Clapton memorabilia.
  • Reece Shearsmith, known for being in The League of Gentlemen, once wrote in to The Beano, saying that he had lost his current copy. It ended up as the star prize.
  • Big Eggo was replaced by Biffo the Bear as the cover star in 1948 as research showed that children identified more with characters that, like them, had 2 arms and 2 legs.
  • British adult humour comic Viz has landed in trouble a number of times for parodies of Beano (and Dandy) characters including Desperately Unfunny Dan, and DC Thompson.
  • The band Help She Can't Swim released an EP under the name of Bunty Vs Beano
  • In the revival of the British television show Dr. Finlay the character of Dr. David Neil reads the Beano comics.
  • In a Spitting Image special "Bumbledown: The Lives and Times of Ronald Reagan", when the puppet of former Foreign Secretary Sir Geoffrey Howe appears, he was seen eating crisps and reading a copy of "The Beano".
  • In Episode 13 of the CBBC series Young Dracula, Vlad can be seen reading a Beano (specifically, the Ball Boy strip) hidden inside a revision book for a "blood test" examination, a sort of vampire GCSE.
  • The Libertines' song "What A Waster" refers to the Beano.
  • The Beano is so popular that it has its own theme park, Beanoland, at Chessington World of Adventures. This opened in 2000, but is under threat of closure as the contract has expired.

While this is interesting, we can't use it unless you provide a source. Also, none of this is really trivia, as trivia by its definition is "unimportant information" - it therefore shouldn't be in a trivia section but instead the information should be incorporated into the main article. - Tbsdy lives (talk) 10:43, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Beanoland does exist, see further up on this page, the article Chessington World of Adventures, and this. Took me 5 seconds... ☺ Spiby ☻ 12:45, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers. - Tbsdy lives (talk) 10:28, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Beano is eighty years old on 30 July 2018

This article could mention there were going to be celebrations to mark the eightieth birthday of the Beano on 30 July 2018. Vorbee (talk) 07:33, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pranking/bullying

"For decades strips have appeared to glorify immoral behaviour, e.g. pranking/bullying (Dennis the Menace)..." - I always thought there was a distinction between "menacing" (performing pranks for one's amusement) and "bullying" (belittling others to hide one's own inadequacy), with only menacing being acceptable. Actual bullies tended to be short-lived characters and soon overthrown, iirc. I remember a TV interview (late 80s?) in which one of the Beano staff made the same point. Any thoughts on how to improve this sentence? Pastychomper (talk) 15:31, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Continuity

This is an issue across many of the comic strips' pages so I'll put it here. There should an acknowledgement that character names have changed overtime (e.g. BSK's Sydney Pye was once named Katie, and Minnie the Minx had another name because the original grew up and had the new Dennis the Menace with the 1980s' Dennis). —MonkeyStolen234 (talk) 12:34, 6 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

revert?

With this edit, Editor MonkeyStolen234 reverted my edit with the edit summary: Important for new edit draft I've spent the past week working on. This page is a bit of a mess.

That claim doesn't make any sense to me. The target citation is:

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McAleer, Joseph (1992). Popular Reading and Publishing in Britain, 1914-1950. Oxford [England]: Clarendon Press. ISBN 0198203292.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: ref duplicates default (link)

Here is the html from that template:

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The important bit from that is:

<cite id="CITEREFMcAleer1992"

My edit removed |ref={{harvid|McAleer|1992}} from that template:

{{cite book |last1=McAleer |first1=Joseph |title=Popular Reading and Publishing in Britain, 1914-1950 |date=1992 |publisher=Clarendon Press |location=Oxford [England] |isbn=0198203292 |url=https://archive.org/details/popularreadingpu0000mcal/ }}
McAleer, Joseph (1992). Popular Reading and Publishing in Britain, 1914-1950. Oxford [England]: Clarendon Press. ISBN 0198203292.

Here is the html from that template:

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Notice that the same important bit is the same:

<cite id="CITEREFMcAleer1992"

Except for the templatestyles stripmarkers, notice that the html for both citations (with and without {{harvid}}) is identical.

When the output from {{harvid}} is the same as the anchor id that a {{cite book}} template would calculate for itself, {{harvid}} is not needed so I removed it. Editors should expect that my awb task will revisit this page and remove {{harvid}} once again.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 18:43, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Beano Video

Beano Video may not meet Wikipedia's general notability guideline. So I suggest to merge to The Beano.--67.218.18.234 (talk) 20:55, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Moving of episodes

The episodes that have moved to Deko Boko Friends were:

  • Dennis the Menace and Gnasher: In on the Act
  • The Bash Street Kids: Face the Music
  • Gnasher and Gnipper: Hotdog
  • The Three Bears: Porridge
  • Minnie the Minx: Minnie Chairs
  • Dennis the Menace: Soap Box Cart
  • The Bash Street Kids: Lake Beautiful
  • The Three Bears: Scorcher
  • Dennis the Menace and Gnasher: Sausages
  • Minnie the Minx: Minnie Apples
  • The Bash Street Kids: Space Case
  • Dennis the Menace and Gnasher: Pink Glove
  • The Three Bears: Greedy Bears' Picnic
  • Minnie the Minx: Minnie Flying
  • Dennis the Menace and Gnasher: Big Surprise
  • The Three Bears: Hare Soup
  • The Bash Street Kids: Molar Mirth
  • Gnipper: Gnipper Pecker
  • Minnie the Minx: Minnie Clones
  • Dennis the Menace and Gnasher: The Snowman Army
  • Minnie the Minx: Jelly Babies
  • The Bash Street Kids: The New School
  • Minnie the Minx: It's a Dad's Life
  • The Three Bears: Bag Those Pipes
  • Ivy the Terrible: On Safari
  • Gnipper: Flutterby
  • Dennis the Menace and Gnasher: Dennis Meets His Match

The episodes that have moved to the 1971 Dr. Seuss TV special The Cat in the Hat were:

  • Adventures in Dennis Sitting
  • Haunted House
  • Oil Strike
  • Mauled
  • The Trial
  • Journey to the Centre of the Bed
  • Snowbound
  • Monster Menace

All these episodes don't have rights to The Beano. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.218.18.234 (talk) 13:59, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I dont understand what you are talking about? Eopsid (talk) 19:23, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Bea and Ivy" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Bea and Ivy has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 21 § Bea and Ivy until a consensus is reached. Utopes (talk / cont) 02:57, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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