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Game of Thrones is a TV show with a large cast. However, it only has 40 or so series regulars, whereas shows like True Blood have over 50 series regulars and that show gets to have it's full cast of series regulars on the main Wikipedia page. I request to be allowed to give the main Game of Thrones Wikipedia page the same treatment.

Out of curiosity, I counted the characters mentioned at Game_of_Thrones#Cast_and_characters, there are about 45. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:28, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Actually there are exactly 43. Which is why I said "40 or so". So what is the answer to my request?

I have no idea. This is a WP:GA, which indicates it's considered to be in generally good shape compared to articles that are not. Would it be an improvement to add X characters to that section? I don't really have an opinion atm, but it's not obvious to me. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:25, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

However, you can be WP:BOLD and see what happens. Or wait for more comments. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:28, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I consider it to be an improvement to show the cast members in that section because it seems natural to do so.

I think the reasoning behind formatting the main cast section this way is because whoever originally did it figured there were too many characters to list them out (as is typically done). That's also probably why there is a link to a separate article just for the GOT cast, and that includes everyone. RaCJ1325 (talk) 05:48, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Sopranos, which has a similarly large starring cast, credits only actors that starred in every season on its main page. Would this not be a workable solution to this problem for GOT? ClintsWayne (talk) 19:27, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with this idea. I believe the infobox should list some of the cast members. The actors are generally the most notable aspect of a TV series and for none of them to listed in the infobox, which serves as an overview of the article's most important aspects, seems like an oversight. The infobox lists 9 executive producers and 8 producers (most of which don't have Wikipedia articles) but no cast members. I think a list of the top 10-12 actors would be sufficient. Actors who were regulars for all 7 seasons were: Peter Dinklage, Nikolaj Coster-Waldau, Lena Headey, Emilia Clarke, Iain Glen, Kit Harington, Sophie Turner, Maisie Williams, and Alfie Allen. Drovethrughosts (talk) 13:21, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I would also note that these are listed as the main cast members later on in the article, so putting them in the text box would be consistent with that ClintsWayne (talk) 05:17, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, Bernadette Banner has given a thorough and intelligent evaluation of the Game of Thrones costuming that you might want to look at - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7aBLEio6J8. She has had Broadway costume department experience, is an NYU graduate, and has studied historical clothing. She has gained quite a bit of notoriety since launching her YouTube channel and has done a video for the YouTube Glamour magazine channel evaluating the costumes in the original "Mary Poppins" film.

In addition, production design encompasses the whole visual image of a film or show. As the Wikipedia page puts it, "... the overall aesthetic of the story." But you don't offer information on that topic. Please add it to the article as I find it very interesting and so will others.

Thank you for your time, Wordreader (talk) 21:09, 6 October 2022 (UTC) , Edited Wordreader (talk) 21:20, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Under the section describing copyright infringement, we are told "Season seven was either illegally streamed or downloaded an average of 14.7 billion times"

If we assume for the sake of rounding, that there are about 7.5 to 8bn bn people on the planet, this would be nearly 2 illegal downloads of the complete season per person? And as good as the show is, there are a vast swaythes of people who didn't have any intetest in watching it at all.

Has this claim been fact-checked? Is the source credible enough to accept this claim? 2601:CF:300:4B70:743E:52D1:81B4:8D85 (talk) 11:29, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What the source (Variety) states : "The seventh season of “Game of Thrones” has been illegally downloaded or streamed more than 1 billion times. [...] the seven episodes of “Game of Thrones” season seven each averaged 14.7 billion illegal views through Sept. 3. Within the first 72 hours of its initial broadcast, the season premiere was illegally downloaded or streamed more than 90 million times. The season finale was illegally downloaded or streamed more than 120 million times within its first 72 hours." The sentence in the WP article is not entirely accurate to the cited source, I'll copy edit. --Lapadite (talk) 11:37, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This HBO series has 4K HDR, Dolby ATMOS + Vision on 4K UHD Disc and HBO Max. The title card was modified for the final season, with the opening credits changed after the seventh season. CastJared (talk) 11:23, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@CastJared What are you proposing? (@Manticore:) Bazza (talk) 11:28, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The source from Game of Thrones Fandom states: Unlike previous seasons, the eighth season's sequence also seems to be strictly abiding by the events of the show, therefore changing many aspects in the process. For example, the theme of sigils is present throughout previous sequences, but are removed in the latest version. The title sequence also clearly highlights House Lannister's control of King's Landing, removing the sigil of House Baratheon, despite Robert Baratheon being deceased since the first season (even more so when one considers House Baratheon of King's Landing and its effectiveness as a puppet of House Lannister). For the eighth and final season.

Also, (Polygon) stated that it added 4K HDR into HBO Max since they did it on 4K UHD Blu-ray.

Categories needed to be involved, like Television controversies in the US, and made by Home Box Office. CastJared (talk) 11:39, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@CastJared You need to be clearer. What actual change are you proposing?

Note that WP:FANDOM, WP:BLOG and other self-published information are usually not acceptable sources for Wikipedia. Have a read of WP:RS to see what is. Bazza (talk) 12:16, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I proposed changes about the title card and the picture and audio format to include 4K. CastJared (talk) 12:19, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@CastJared I disagree with updating the infobox image, or adding any caption to it. It's fine as it is for representing the whole series.

If you want to add more picture and audio information to the current infobox, then use the information already in the article to do so. If you'd like help to do this, then you can ask here, stating clearly what changes you'd like made. Bazza (talk) 12:30, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@CastJared: To briefly add on to what Bazza 7 has said above, Fandom is a wiki hosting service that anybody can edit, similar to Wikipedia. It's for that reason that wikis are usually not considered reliable sources. See WP:UGC and Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a reliable source for an explanation as to why we need to use other sources in our articles. Any content that isn't supported by a reliable source is likely to be removed, particularly on high traffic pages such as this one. — Manticore 19:59, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I know that HBO made controversies surrounding it's original programming as a draft, as Draft:HBO controversies. CastJared (talk) 14:27, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@CastJared, you should be aware of WP:CRITS which seems to discourage, if not forbid, such content. You might notice that this talk page's article contains no such information. Bazza (talk) 14:45, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah. I know. CastJared (talk) 14:51, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, I plan to add some more information in the Plot section. I propose to write a short description of each season in 2 or 3 lines which encapsulates the major themes of those seasons. After that, I also want to add some info related to how all these seasons/storylines are connected to each other. G3Tr1Gh7 (talk) 21:26, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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G3Tr1Gh7 (talk) 21:56, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:PLOT may be of interest. And perhaps WP:AUTOCONFIRM. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:03, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, will look into this! G3Tr1Gh7 (talk) 22:04, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks. G3Tr1Gh7 (talk) 00:07, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep the plot concise VerseVoyager8 (talk) 15:46, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sure.

Thanks for the input. G3Tr1Gh7 (talk) 15:49, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I plan to add more relevant stuff relating to each season and each storyline's themes in the 'Themes' section. G3Tr1Gh7 (talk) 21:45, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As long as you cite good sources and no WP:OR, you can be WP:BOLD and see what happens. I note that this article is currently about 10 800 words, so WP:TOOBIG may be an issue. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:58, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe you can add about themes such as morality cause a lot of the characters in this are morally grey. VerseVoyager8 (talk) 15:48, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thank you so much!

As this is my first time editing a Wikipedia page, I do not have edit access yet.

I would like to have the edit access to this page, as it is semi-protected.

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G3Tr1Gh7 (talk) 22:01, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:AUTOCONFIRM. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:04, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please disregard the edit request above. I have been auto-confirmed, and now can start editing the article G3Tr1Gh7 (talk) 00:07, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Note: marking as closed. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 00:44, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I'm thinking about adding some more characters to the 'characters' section. Presently, a lot of characters and their introductions exist in this section. However, I think I can think of more characters which are not major characters but are significant figures in some storylines. G3Tr1Gh7 (talk) 23:54, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

An example would be Mance Rayder (The King Beyond the Wall), who is not a major figure but has a significant amount of scenes and contributions to the storyline especially in Seasons 2 and 3. G3Tr1Gh7 (talk) 00:01, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would be amazing if you could write more about characters who had a small part but made significant impact. Also are you going to be covering characters from book or movie or both? VerseVoyager8 (talk) 15:50, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, discussing the critical reception and audience reactions can provide context for the series' impact. In this, I also plan to answer the question about how Seasons 7 and 8 have lower ratings than other seasons. G3Tr1Gh7 (talk) 23:57, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe add that in critical reception too VerseVoyager8 (talk) 15:50, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I will. G3Tr1Gh7 (talk) 15:51, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]