Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 15: Difference between revisions

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 15, 2023.

• National Produce Stakes → Vincent O'Brien National Stakes  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

There is also an article at National Produce Stakes (Irish greyhounds). Are we confident that the former name of a horse race in the distant past is a dominant topic over the greyhound race held since 1939? —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 16:52, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment. See Talk:National Produce Stakes (Irish greyhounds)#Requested move 1 November 2023. The horse race seems to have been renamed in c.1960. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:09, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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• Crimson Tide(University of Alabama) → Alabama Crimson Tide  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Crimson Tide (University of Alabama), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 23:21, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:24, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Comment Steel1943, why didn't you just merge all of these entries into one? Doesn't seem like a WP:TRAINWRECK case where certain redirects should be retained over the others. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:24, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per WP:RDAB. I agree it would be better to merge these nomination as clear deletions (often at the level of WP:SNOW); considering the volume of these redirect maybe even a speedy deletion category could be created. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 19:04, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• List of Russian administrative centers(*) and cities over 50,000 population at 2002 census → List of cities and towns in Russia by population  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Besides having an unnecessarily unwieldy title, this redirect is no longer accurate anyways since the target reflects the most recent census in 2021, not 2002. Steel1943 (talk) 22:03, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: For all reasons cited by nom. The target is not accurate as it only includes 2021 and 2010 census data, completely dropping the 2002 census data out of the article and even if it did include the 2002 data the way that it is written as "administrative centers(*)" is odd enough that probably this could be deleted as unnatural as it would be highly unlikely someone types in that with the asterisk in parens. While this was the name of the article when it was first created, it was moved only 8 days after creation back in 2006, so I find it unlikely that there is an issue of incoming links here to need to account for. TartarTorte 23:12, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Fundraiser(person) → Fundraising  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Fundraiser (person), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 21:40, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:24, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 19:03, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Sony Entertainment Television(India) → Sony Entertainment Television  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Sony Entertainment Television (India), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 21:31, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:24, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 19:03, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Bobsleigh(sport) → Bobsleigh  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Bobsleigh (sport), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 21:27, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:24, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 19:03, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Vidyasagar(Music director) → Vidyasagar (composer)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the lack of space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Vidyasagar (Music director), does not exist; However, the version with the proper capitalization in the disambiguator, Vidyasagar (music director), exists and targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 21:19, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:24, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 19:02, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Will(law) → Will and testament  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Will (law), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 21:13, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:23, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 19:02, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Vikram(actor) → Vikram (actor)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Vikram (actor), is the target of the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 21:04, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:23, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 19:00, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Matrix(mathematics) → Matrix (mathematics)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Matrix (mathematics), is the target of the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 21:00, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:23, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 19:00, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Matrix Theory and Linear Algebra → Matrix (mathematics)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:XY. Matrix theory redirects to the same target as the nominated redirect, but Linear algebra is a different topic. Steel1943 (talk) 20:58, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment "Matrix Theory and Linear Algebra" is a standard sort of title of an introductory linear algebra course, probably offered and hundreds of universities, and perhaps also of textbooks intended for such a course. --JBL (talk) 21:09, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like a potential argument for WP:REDLINK deletion then, if the pairing of these two terms together represent a university course of some sort rather than the target subject. Steel1943 (talk) 21:21, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the result of "Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 January 21#Algebra I" may be relevant here regarding setting some sort of precedence. Steel1943 (talk) 21:23, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That may or may not be relevant. The principle argument for deleting the redirects there was that they were too ambiguous to make a viable disambiguation or set index article, referring to many different courses at multiple levels (at least high school to undergraduate level) in multiple different education systems and institutions. @JBL's comment suggests far less ambiguity in this situation. Thryduulf (talk) 14:00, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you can source that this is a common title, then a page with that as an introduction and links to both topics with a brief (few words) summary of each would make a good set index. Thryduulf (talk) 10:24, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking from a non-WP-editor perspective, this is easy to verify by putting the phrase into your favorite search engine and looking through a few pages of hits, picking out different universities and textbooks as you go. Of course this is not a WP-usable form of verification, and I am skeptical that one can find much in the way of secondary sources commenting on the fact of the commonness of this phrase. We can see in the history of this redirect something of what was intended, since it originally pointed to "matrix theory". This phrase is a partial synonym of "linear algebra", suggesting the less-theoretical aspects of the field, especially as taught in introductory courses with audience largely composed of engineers -- but I don't think we really have an article about that (or, to the extent that we do, the article is already the current target of the redirect). In the end I've just commented here (rather than !voted) because I don't see that it matters very much: it's easy to understand why the redirect was created and why it points where it does (so its existence isn't harmful), but it's also hard to see a situation where it is crucial for navigation in the encyclopedia (so its deletion also wouldn't be harmful). --JBL (talk) 18:13, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Alleged role of Saudi officials in the September 11 attacks → Alleged Saudi role in the September 11 attacks  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Declined R3, even though this is an implausible typo and the nominator has been advised to request R3 [1]. No need for such a long search phrase to clutter Wikipedia's search box, especially that the redirect was created barely a few hours ago. — kashmīrī ^TALK 20:56, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Maybe I'm being stupid, but what's the typo here? Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 21:47, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  I do not see a typo. Steel1943 (talk) 21:57, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: I don't view this as an implausible typo. I don't think the article necessarily needs to be at this location as it was moved to shortly, but I don't think this redirect is in any way inaccurate or containing a typo that makes it R3'able. The article is about the alleged role of Saudi Government officials in the 9/11 attacks, so the redirect seems appropriate to me. TartarTorte 23:09, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per TartarTorte, this is an accurate description of the target article's contents and as far as I can see contains no typos or misnomers, let alone implausible ones. Thryduulf (talk) 10:26, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Home (Basshunter lyric video) → Home (Basshunter song)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Redundant redirect from an implausible search term. With extremely rare exceptions on the order of "Thriller", a music video would virtually never qualify for its own standalone article as a separate topic from the song that it's the music video for, and lyric videos (which absolutely anybody can make and post to YouTube at any time whether it's "official" or not) have an even weaker prospect of independent notability than narrative videos do -- and since Home (Basshunter song) already exists as an article about the song, there's no compelling reason why it would need a separate redirect from a differently-disambiguated title representing its own lyric video. Bearcat (talk) 17:02, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The target article mentions the existence of a related "lyric video" in the top section, but I'm uncertain if its passing mention is enough to validate any utility this nominated redirect has. Steel1943 (talk) 19:28, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Angels Ain't Listening (lyric video) → Angels Ain't Listening#Lyric video  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Redundant redirect from an implausible search term. With extremely rare exceptions on the order of "Thriller", a music video would virtually never qualify for its own standalone article as a separate topic from the song that it's the music video for, and lyric videos (which absolutely anybody can make and post to YouTube at any time whether it's "official" or not) have an even weaker prospect of independent notability than narrative videos do -- and since Angels Ain't Listening already exists as an article about the song, there's no compelling reason why it would need a separate redirect from a disambiguated title representing its own lyric video. Bearcat (talk) 16:34, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. Lyric video exists and targets the proper subject. The nominated redirect explains the "lyric video" subtopic of the target article's primary subject. For these reasons, this redirect does not seem misleading or unnecessary, and directs readers to what they are most likely attempt on to locate if looking up this term. Steel1943 (talk) 19:26, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. This seems to be a very plausible search term for someone looking for the content that exists at the target. Independent notability is not a requirement for redirects - indeed the opposite is often true. Thryduulf (talk) 10:28, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Aire Webster → Kardashian family#Kardashian–Jenner family tree  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This seems to refer to Kylie Jenner's child with Travis Scott, but the name is not mentioned at the target or anywhere on wikipedia. It should certainly not target this current target in its current state, but I am unsure what should be done with it. TartarTorte 16:24, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Nobody of this name is mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia. They used to be mentioned at the target, but that mention was removed by Vegantics in September with this edit citing WP:NONAME. It's been over 2 months since that edit which afaict has not been challenged, so the lack of mention seems to have consensus. Thryduulf (talk) 10:36, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Ínti González Cazzuchelli → Cazzu  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This person is not mentioned at the target and I can find no information at all about this person online in my before. I think this should be deleted. TartarTorte 16:20, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. I cannot verify the existence of a person by this name, let alone any connection to the target. Thryduulf (talk) 10:38, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Kogen Province, North Korea → Kangwon Province, North Korea  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Kogen, North Korea → Kangwon Province, North Korea  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Kōgen is the Japanese pronunciation of 江原 (Kangwŏn), which was used in Japanese Korea instead of the DPR Korea. Konno Yumeto 02:49, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak Retarget to Kōgen-dō as {{R from incorrect name}} -- 65.92.247.90 (talk) 08:21, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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• Kogen Province, South Korea → Gangwon Province, South Korea  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Kogen, South Korea → Gangwon Province, South Korea  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Kōgen is the Japanese pronunciation of 江原 (Gangwon), which was used in Japanese Korea instead of the Republic of Korea. Konno Yumeto 02:45, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak Retarget to Kōgen-dō as {{R from incorrect name}} -- 65.92.247.90 (talk) 08:21, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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• Fu-chien County → Fujian  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

There is no Fu-chien (Fujian) County but Fu-chien Province. Konno Yumeto 02:31, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Fujian Circuit as {{R from search term}} / {{R from alternative translation}}. Per our article on Circuits, they were equivalent of county-level divisions -- 65.92.247.90 (talk) 08:25, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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• Life Speaks to Me (lyric video) → Basshunter videography#Lyric videos  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Redundant redirect from an implausible search term. With extremely rare exceptions on the order of "Thriller", a music video would virtually never qualify for its own standalone article as a separate topic from the song that it's the music video for, and lyric videos (which absolutely anybody can make and post to YouTube at any time whether it's "official" or not) have an even weaker prospect of independent notability than narrative videos do -- but since Life Speaks to Me is already a redirect to the same place as it is, there's no compelling reason at all why the lyric video would need its own separate redirect distinct from the song's redirect. Bearcat (talk) 16:17, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. There is information about a lyric video for "Life Speaks to Me" at the target, even if not much, so someone using this plausible search term is going to find the information we have. I wouldn't recommend routinely creating redirects such as this, but I see no justification for deletion if someone does create them. Thryduulf (talk) 10:41, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• JUNIPER → Juniper (disambiguation)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I created this redirect targeting Junlper. Dicklyon retargeted it to the current target. I propose retargeting back to Junlper as that is the only entry at that dab stylized in all caps. Clyde _{[trout needed]} 00:39, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ping Dicklyon since the ping didn't work right. Clyde _{[trout needed]} 00:41, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Retain – It makes more sense to target it to the disambig page based on the spelling (juniper) than on the capitalization that makes it look like the oddly styled junlper. Dicklyon (talk) 02:27, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget per nom. I'll reproduce my comment at the AFD: "Please see WP:DIFFCAPS. From a quick glance, it seems like no other page at Juniper (disambiguation) uses an all-caps stylization that could be confused with JUN[L]PER. The closest are Juniper Networks, which uses an all-caps, san-serif stylization with a similar I/l but includes "Networks" prominently and the defunct Juniper Bank, which uses an all-caps stylization but in a serif font so the I is easily discernible. By contrast, the Twitter account prominently and consistently uses all-caps in its stylization to try and confuse people. The name is also apparently pronounced like "Juniper", so unless there's clear evidence of other Junipers using an all-caps stylization, there isn't really an issue with this that the current hatnote to the DAB isn't solving. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 14:02, 17 October 2023 (UTC)" -- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 02:50, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  The trouble is that this allows the shitposter to shitify Wikipedia by converting an all-caps query to a spelling error. It's much more likely that a person entering "JUNIPER" as a search query just has their caps lock on than that they're looking for that obscure and barely notable shitposter Junlper. Dicklyon (talk) 03:19, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Without any usability testing data, this sounds like an uncommon hypothetical scenario, whereas confusion between l and I (indistinguishable in most default sans-serif system fonts) is a very real and prominent accessibility concern. Regardless of being obscure and barely notable, Junlper is currently an article on Wikipedia, and redirects should help readers who are looking for it. –RoxySaunders 🏳️‍⚧️ (💬 • 📝) 18:25, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget per nom. Junlper is the only topic which is commonly all-capsed in sources. 162 etc. (talk) 03:57, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to Junlper per above and add hatnote. Her Twitter username JUNlPER, under which she is notable, is a stylized form of JUNIPER and can easily be mistaken for it. Nothing else is known as JUNIPER, so WP:DIFFCAPS applies. –CopperyMarrow15 (talk | edits) Feel free to ping me! 22:36, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to Junlper per above. A hatnote to the dab page won't hurt --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:18, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Retain disambiguation: All-caps is a common stylization and was apparently also used intentionally by Juniper Networks and Juniper Bank, and can happen by caps-lock, and searches are typically not case sensitive. It's fine for JUNlPER to redirect to Junlper (since that's hard to produce by accident), but not JUNIPER, which is a different spelling and confusing to readers. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 16:48, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Retain disambiguation Per BarrelProof. Cinderella157 (talk) 11:39, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Nofifed Talk:Junlper, as I should've done when I started this but didn't. Clyde _{[trout needed]} 13:30, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• RETAIN targetting the disambiguaiton page -- 65.92.247.90 (talk) 03:53, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep (ie retain disambiguation). Notwithstanding stylisation, "JUNIPER" is not an all-caps version of the Junlper article title. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:42, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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• Retarget. No other Juniper page has unusual capitalization and I doubt anyone would expect this redirect to lead elsewhere. Support hatnote on Junlper page Yoblyblob (talk) 13:10, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Retain, mainly per the information found by BarrelProof. Furthermore, while the scenarios brought up by both sides of this debate are entirely plausible, there is something of precedent for redirects of all-caps versions of article titles. Precedent should never be the only reason for doing something on Wikipedia, but given the impossibility of determining which article a person typing "JUNIPER" is actually looking for, precedent could perhaps be used to tip the scales an extra nudge further in favour of retaining. Anonymous 02:47, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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• Retarget: distinctive capitalization (JUNlPER). Edward-Woodrow (talk) 00:20, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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• Five Nights at Freddy's 7 → Five Nights at Freddy's: Help Wanted  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

There's no mention of this term in the target. I don't see any reliable sources that call this game by the name "Five Night's at Freddy's 7" either. Pizzaplayer219^Talk_Contribs 15:30, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak keep, it is called Five Night's at Freddy's 7 sometimes, and besides there's no term that shares this name. Can be kept. SouthParkFan2006 (talk) 19:15, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to List of Five Nights at Freddy's media where it is noted that Ultimate Custom Night is "Often referred to as Five Nights at Freddy's 7.", but those who are looking for Help Wanted (Google finds results for both) will also find what they are looking for. Thryduulf (talk) 10:47, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  I should note that the quote in List of Five Nights at Freddy's media isn't sourced. Pizzaplayer219^Talk_Contribs 13:46, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  True, but googling for the exact phrase produces so many hits that it is clearly correct. Someone who knows the reliability of sources in the topic area should be able to add a citation very easily if desired. Those same results clearly indicate that this is a very plausible search term (the reliability of sources doesn't really matter for this purpose, only their existence). Thryduulf (talk) 14:04, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  I've simply removed the claim altogether. I couldn't find any reliable mention of UCN being referred to "Five Nights at Freddy's 7" on google. Feel free to re-add the claim once you find reliable sources mentioning the term. Pizzaplayer219^Talk_Contribs 20:28, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• User:Mr. Great Cow → Cattle  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Should this redirect be removed due to pointless crossing of namespace? I know we can't just delete user pages (though the user is blocked). TNstingray (talk) 15:28, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - nonsense, and the user is a checkuser-confirmed sockpuppet anyway. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 16:39, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Just remove the redirect from the page or replace it with the relevant block template. There's no need to delete the whole user page. -- Tavix ^(talk) 17:43, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Convert to a soft redirect, adding the relevant block template above if desired. Hard redirects from base user pages to anything other than the user talk page or the user page of another account controlled by the same person are almost always confusing at best, however these problems are entirely resolved by changing from a hard to a soft redirect which also maintains the link desired by the user. Thryduulf (talk) 10:53, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Chanterelle (The Super Mario Bros. Movie) → The Super Mario Bros. Movie  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

A very very minor character from the movie. Not mentioned in the target. No reliable sources mention the character either. Pizzaplayer219^Talk_Contribs 14:58, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete due to not notable, and highly unlikely to ever be used with the parenthesis. Yoblyblob (talk) 15:07, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as WP:FANCRUFT. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:22, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Untitled Mario film → The Super Mario Bros. Movie  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Draft:Untitled Mario film → The Super Mario Bros. Movie  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]  Undoing this nomination due to it's history Pizzaplayer219^Talk_Contribs 15:06, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Draft:Untitled animated Mario film → The Super Mario Bros. Movie  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No longer untitled. It's been months since the movie came out and page views have died down. Pizzaplayer219^Talk_Contribs 14:54, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• (edit conflict) Draft:Untitled Mario film has edit history that was merged to the main article. For that one, move without redirect to Draft:The Super Mario Bros. Movie to match the main article. -- Tavix ^(talk) 15:08, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Refine Untitled Mario film to The Super Mario Bros. Movie#Possible sequel, the "untitled" film is now the next one. Delete Draft:Untitled animated Mario film to make way for a draft on the sequel. -- Tavix ^(talk) 15:22, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Strong keep Untitled Mario film. This is consistently getting many page views (133 in the 30 days preceding the nomination), the only day this year when it wasn't used was 15 August and some days it is still getting into double figures. I don't know why this is still getting used so much but deletion would very clearly be harmful. No comment regarding the drafts at this point. Thryduulf (talk) 11:02, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  My only thought is that there are readers who may be looking for information regarding the sequel. Never the less, the redirect appears ambiguous and doesn't seem to be helpful in an encyclopedic sense, IMO. Kcmastrpc (talk) 14:03, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  I'm happy to retarget to the sequel. That would seem to be a reason for the redirect getting so many views. Thryduulf (talk) 17:37, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging everyone who participated in the last discussion: @Kcmastrpc @MikeAllen @InfiniteNexus @Eureka Lott @J947 @QuicoleJR @2NumForIce @Steel1943 @Veverve @Pppery @Compassionate727 @Yoshiman6464 @Jay Pizzaplayer219^Talk_Contribs 13:59, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong user: @EurekaLott Pizzaplayer219^Talk_Contribs 14:02, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Untitled Mario film per WP:UFILM. Comparing the page views of this redirect and its target, I would consider the extreme different a "taper[ing] off" per WP:UFILM. Weak keep Draft:Untitled animated Mario film per WP:RDRAFT since it is a {{R from move}}, but "weak" since its former content is currently in the edit history of Draft:Untitled Mario film, which is not in the "article" space. Steel1943 (talk) 15:00, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Retarget Untitled Mario film to The Super Mario Bros. Movie#Possible sequel per Tavix. Steel1943 (talk) 16:04, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - The film is no-longer untitled. The redirect had served its purpose before the film's trailer was announced. Yoshiman6464 ^♫🥚 15:28, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: per Yoshiman6464. Veverve (talk) 17:20, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete all. These redirects are not useful to readers. No one will be searching these terms in the search bar, and no articles (presumably) use these redirects. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:22, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Lolbit → Five Nights at Freddy's#Animatronics  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in the target. No reliable sources mention the character either. Pizzaplayer219^Talk_Contribs 14:06, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. Readers don't particularly care whether Lolbit is mentioned in reliable sources. Someone searching for this character will be led to the correct place. --(Roundish ✡t) 01:44, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Whether it is mentioned in reliable sources is indeed not especially relevant, however it not being mentioned in the article (or anywhere else on Wikipedia) is - someone searching for this term who knows what it means will not find any information at the target, those who don't know what it means will just be confused. Thryduulf (talk) 11:05, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Israeli culture, → Culture of Israel  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete due to general precedence for not having redirects ending in commas. Anonymous 13:41, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per comma. Yoblyblob (talk) 15:07, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, useless. SouthParkFan2006 (talk) 19:24, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as not helpful. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:20, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Dilbert guy → Scott Adams  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Could equally refer to any male male character from Dilbert. Edward-Woodrow • talk 22:46, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. I've seen multiple people refer to Adams as "The Dilbert Guy" online. It seems unlikely that anybody would use that phrase to refer to any of the other characters in Dilbert. Dilbert is just "Dilbert" and the phrase would be too ambiguous to serve to specifically identify any of the other male characters. If anybody is looking for information about the characters in Dilbert then there is a link to it in the second sentence of the target article so any such readers can easily find their way to what they are looking for without any trouble. --DanielRigal (talk) 00:36, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per DanielRigal. In practice this is unambiguous. Thryduulf (talk) 01:05, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Thryduulf. Actual and factual. Hyperbolick (talk) 09:52, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Without context, the Dilbert guy is Dilbert (character). -- Tavix ^(talk) 01:42, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Actually, the evidence is that without context "Dilbert guy" is Scott Adams - Searching for "dilbert guy" -wikipedia -"lost his mind" -"the bastards" (the latter two exclusions to filter out a very commonly cited article and video respectively) the only result on the first four pages that is about the character is the h2g2 entry. Thryduulf (talk) 10:07, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  And you need context (ie: reading the results) to figure that out. "Dilbert guy" is a guy named Dilbert, disambiguating Dilbert (character) from Dilbert (comic strip). -- Tavix ^(talk) 12:50, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Except everybody using the phrase "Dilbert guy" is using it to refer to Scott Adams, because he is (as the lead of his article says) the author of the Dilbert (comic strip). Anyone arriving at the article about the character who doesn't know who is being referred to will be confused because the context of the place they saw the phrase used was clearly referring to a person not a character. For those very few people who are using this search term to find the article about a character, who is not referred to as the "Dilbert guy" in any reliable source (and is only referred to as such in exactly one of the many unreliable ones) I've been able to find, would be best served by a hatnote. Thryduulf (talk) 14:37, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  So you've convinced me, per the lede of his article, that "Dilbert author" is Scott Adams. "Dilbert guy" is not necessarily Scott Adams; you need specific context telling you that. -- Tavix ^(talk) 14:46, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  The evidence already presented is that >99% of uses of the term "Dilbert guy" use it to mean "Scott Adams". What other evidence do you want? Thryduulf (talk) 15:21, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  I never asked for evidence. -- Tavix ^(talk) 15:45, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  I'm utterly baffled by your argument then. Someone searching for this term who doesn't know what it means will be doing so after seeing it in context, and that context is exclusively one where "Dilbert guy" means "Scott Adams". If someone is searching for this term who does know what it means will be doing so to read about Scott Adams, because that's what it means everywhere it is used. If they want to learn about the character then they'll search something like Dilbert (character), Dilbert (cartoon character), Dilbert cartoon, Dilbert, Dilbert (Dilbert), or Dilbert (disambiguation). Thryduulf (talk) 22:18, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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• Keep per Thryduulf. Not really sure that this needed relisting twice... Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 20:32, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Gel guards → List of Doctor Who universe creatures and aliens#Gel Guard  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Gel Guard → List of Doctor Who universe creatures and aliens#Gel Guard  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete. Non-notable alien; the original citation is archived here. Karl 334 (talk · contribs) redirected the page to a list in 2013, but the entry for the creature on the target page at that date was just "Main: The Three Doctors",[2] and he did not merge any info. If not deleted, the merge target should be The Three Doctors (Doctor Who), but that article now says merely "UNIT headquarters faces an attack by shapeless blob-like creatures", not naming them "Gel Guards" as in the BBC citation. – Fayenatic London 10:48, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Æon Flux(movie) → Æon Flux (film)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Æon Flux (movie), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 09:09, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. --(Roundish ✡t) 01:42, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:20, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 18:58, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Bagua/Hsing-i → Baguazhang  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete: this redirect is not unambiguous. "Bagua" refers to baguazhang, and "Hsing-i" is a shortened form of the Wade-Giles transcription of xingyiquan. So redirecting anywhere doesn't make a lot of sense. SilverStar54 (talk) 05:11, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: Looks like WP:XY. @SilverStar54: But what about retargeting to the umbrella term Wudangquan? —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 16:37, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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• King Edward Medical University(KEMU) → King Edward Medical University  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, King Edward Medical University (KEMU), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 07:31, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. --(Roundish ✡t) 01:42, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:20, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 18:58, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• John Hunter(rowing) → John Hunter (rower)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, John Hunter (rowing), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 07:10, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Nurg (talk) 09:58, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:20, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 18:57, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Villa-Lobos(crater) → Villa-Lobos (crater)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Villa-Lobos (crater), is the target of the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 07:07, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. --(Roundish ✡t) 01:42, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:20, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 18:57, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Judas(Lady Gaga Song) → Judas (Lady Gaga song)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Judas (Lady Gaga Song), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 07:06, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. --(Roundish ✡t) 01:42, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:20, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 18:57, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Animal(Muppet) → Animal (Muppet)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Animal (Muppet), is the target of the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 07:02, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. --(Roundish ✡t) 01:41, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:19, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 18:57, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• 3rd Infantry Brigade(South Africa) → 3rd Infantry Brigade (South Africa)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, 3rd Infantry Brigade (South Africa), is the target of the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 06:59, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. --(Roundish ✡t) 01:41, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:19, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 18:56, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Commander of the Navy(Sri Lanka) → Commander of the Navy (Sri Lanka)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Commander of the Navy (Sri Lanka), is the target of the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 06:56, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. --(Roundish ✡t) 01:41, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:19, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 18:56, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Magic Touch(Kiss song) → Dynasty (Kiss album)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Magic Touch (Kiss song), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 06:53, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. --(Roundish ✡t) 01:41, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:19, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 18:56, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Submission(Islam) → Ibadah  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Submission (Islam), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 06:48, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Speedy delete per nom. SouthParkFan2006 (talk) 19:30, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:19, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 18:55, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Derivation(linguistics) → Morphological derivation  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Derivation (linguistics), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 06:45, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. --(Roundish ✡t) 01:41, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:19, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 18:55, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• The Main Man: Part II(Superman: The Animated Series) → List of Superman: The Animated Series episodes#Season One  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, The Main Man: Part II (Superman: The Animated Series), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 06:42, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. --(Roundish ✡t) 01:41, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:19, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 18:55, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Hud(prophet) → Hud (prophet)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Hud (prophet), is the target of the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 06:40, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. --(Roundish ✡t) 01:40, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:19, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 18:55, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Nadar(caste) → Nadar (caste)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Nadar (caste), is the target of the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 06:38, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. --(Roundish ✡t) 01:40, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:19, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 18:54, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Roja(film) → Roja (film)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Roja (film), is the target of the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 06:28, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 06:32, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, it is the case of non controversial house keeping deletion. Rickyurs (talk) 08:06, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 18:54, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Second Five-Year Pla → Five-year plans of China  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Redirects that can be expected to not be used. ときさき くるみ ^{not because they are easy, but because they are hard} 06:24, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• 2nd Five-Year Pla → Five-year plans of China  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Redirects that can be expected to not be used. ときさき くるみ ^{not because they are easy, but because they are hard} 06:24, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Life ( 2020 British TV series) → Life (2020 TV series)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the "(" and the name of the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Life (2020 British TV series), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 06:20, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 06:32, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete (and SNOW please) - X201 (talk) 08:17, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 18:54, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Holy Quran ( twelver tafsir) → Holy Quran (twelver tafsir)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the "(" and the name of the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Holy Quran (twelver tafsir), is the target of the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 06:20, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 06:32, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 18:53, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Kingseat Hospital ( New Zealand) → Kingseat Hospital (New Zealand)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the "(" and the name of the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Kingseat Hospital (New Zealand), is the target of the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 06:18, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 06:32, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Nurg (talk) 09:57, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 18:52, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• We Make You ( EP) → Seventeen (South Korean band)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the "(" and the name of the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, We Make You (EP), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 06:16, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 06:31, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 18:52, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Morenoism → Nahuel Moreno  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Neither this term nor the associated Morenoites is mentioned on the target article, Nahuel Moreno. I cannot find the terms used in any RSes, though non-RSes use them as pejorative terms for those who follow Moreno. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 01:28, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Significa liberdade: It may be true that no RS'es use the term (I haven't checked), but given that someone might search the term on Wikipedia (after having read some of the non-RS'es), I think it's a useful browsing aid.

FWIW, I did find some mentions by US Congress: https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&q=%22Morenoism%22 SocDoneLeft (talk) 02:48, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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• Keep large number of Marxist and other allied left-wing sites uses the terms -- 65.92.247.90 (talk) 08:35, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Terms not mentioned at their target do not deserve redirects. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 04:11, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • That would require that all articles have enormous footer sections for all the related adjectives, synonyms, etc, turning Wikipedia into a dictionary. WP:RKEEP #6 seems to be good for these -- 65.92.247.90 (talk) 05:09, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't think WP:RKEEP #6 (i.e., "The redirect is to a closely related word form, such as a plural form to a singular form") applies here. The target is a person, and the redirect refers to a related idea, but not a related word form. If the idea of "Morenoism" is notable enough to have a redirect, it should be at least mentioned on the page. Other, similar concepts (e.g., Trumpism even warrant their own page. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 19:13, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The biography seems to adequately address the political positions of Moreno, so the expected material from Morenoism is there to discover, by going to the linked organization with which he had leadership roles. And as you already pointed, the term "Morenoism" isn't likely to get an article, thus a comparison with Trumpism doesn't hold. As Wikipedia is not a dictionary, the definition of Morenoism doesn't need to be there, if the target contains what the topic is about instead of how the word is defined. If Wikipedia is a dictionary, then allied terms would need wordlists at the end of articles. wikt:en:-ism shows this is a related term of simple construction (just add a suffix), the Moreno school of thought is Morenoism. And Moreno's positions are in his biography. -- 65.92.247.90 (talk) 03:42, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per Pppery. Steel1943 (talk) 05:07, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• I regret nothing → Postal (franchise)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at target page, nor in references. I would typically have no idea why this redirect exists, but the edit summary states: "'I regret nothing' is what the Dude says before killing himself in EVERY game"

That being said, looking up the phrase on google gives many different results, not often associated with this franchise, so it may be WP:SURPRISEing to anyone that searches this. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 22:55, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I should clarify that there are dozens of videos of the Postal dude saying this phrase before killing himself, and that the phrase is even included in the Postal movie, I can’t link the videos but you can look them up on YouTube. Second of all, it is strongly associated with the series considering Postal 4’s title references the phrase more or less (and intentionally misspells it)-SignedInteger (talk) 02:47, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete not mentioned at the target and I don't think it's particularly primary for this search term (I was expecting the target to be Non, je ne regrette rien). Hut 8.5 08:05, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Too vague to redirect here. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:38, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to Non, je ne regrette rien. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 22:05, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Thoughts on retargeting?
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• Delete this clearly refers to either Adolf Eichmann or Edith Piaf -- 65.92.247.90 (talk) 08:37, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Disambiguate – Other than already-mentioned Non, je ne regrette rien, there are other targets on WP. Songs/albums include Ich bereue nichts, Jag ångrar ingenting (and Jag ångrar ingenting (song) in that album), She's Got Haggar Party Slacks / I Regret Nothing. There's also the memoir by Jen Lancaster and an episode of Omnibus (mentioned as one of the recipients of the British Academy Television Award for Best Specialist Factual). Randi🦋^Talk_Contribs 07:16, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: More input is clearly necessary...
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• Mythology of Kosovo → Kosovo Myth  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Deletion - redirect suggest mythology of the state or region of Kosovo, meanwhile the target is about Serbian nation-building myth Marcelus (talk) 22:05, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete different meanings -- 65.92.247.90 (talk) 09:06, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak retarget to Cultural_heritage_of_Kosovo#Folklore per nom Yoblyblob (talk) 14:08, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Edward-Woodrow (talk) 00:06, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Cultural heritage of Kosovo#Folklore. --(Roundish ✡t) 01:38, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]