Commons:Deletion requests/File:Bengasi court tribune 0833.jpg

This counts as a derivative work. Libya does not have freedom of panorama (see COM:FOP#Libya), and presumably the transitional council in Benghazi has either not adopted a law concerning the issue (meaning it defaults to no FOP), or its law copies that of its predecessor state. Magog the Ogre (talk) 17:27, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Why should this be "derivative"; the picture shows a person sitting on a table preparing the next event, some posters behind. Why should en:freedom of panorama be touched here, as there are no "buildings and sculptures" concerned? --Bernd.Brincken (talk) 00:07, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Freedom of panorama doesn't simply refer to buildings and sculptures, it refers to any artwork in the public square. It seems to me that the posters are among the primary subject of the photo, and are not subject to de minimis. ("showing flags and symbols of the movement."). Are you indicating otherwise? Magog the Ogre (talk) 03:38, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1. The first sentence in en:freedom of panorama says:

'Panoramafreiheit, translated literally into English as Freedom of Panorama (or Panorama Freedom) .. is a provision in the copyright laws of Germany that permits taking pictures .. of buildings and sculptures which are permanently located in a public place without infringing any copyright that may subsist in such works..'

If you feel it should also be applied to 'any Artwork' you might want to work for a party to change that legislation. Currently it does not. In other words, the lack of FOP in Libya has no Unterscheidungskraft (distinctive character) for this picture.

- Talking about architecture and sculpture, have a look at these categories:

• Category:Benghazi
• Category:Tripoli

Applying your wisdom about a lack of FOP in Libya, most of the pictures there would have to be deleted. Wikipedia is waiting for your engagement.

2. Look at the picture, it shows a stage of the court house in Benghasi, there are some arabic slogans (IMHO without Schöpfungshöhe), some posters (maybe with it), a speakers desk and a person sitting at a desk on that stage and doing some work. Are you complaining about the posters?

--Bernd.Brincken (talk) 07:59, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: I suggest that User:Bernd.Brincken read Commons:Freedom of panorama rather than the WP:EN version which quotes the German law. He or she should also note that FoP is an exception, so the fact that even the German law does not mention "any artwork" means that even in Germany, images of art other than sculpture and architecture are not permitted.      Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 12:39, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]